Artilliery Luger Stock ????

thompsonjoe · 04-30-2006, 09:36 PM

Was told this was used to convert an Artilliery Luger into a mini Rifle

Anyone with knowledge of this..????

Thanks

Steinar · 05-01-2006, 06:48 AM

Welcome to the forum thompsonjoe!
Not an original "Luger item".. Do you know how it was attached?

thompsonjoe · 05-01-2006, 06:50 PM

I was told it dropped in and was held by the upper and lower metal plates, by loosening the plates and then tightening...1 locked behind the trigger and the lower ???

Thanks

John Sabato · 05-02-2006, 11:21 AM

Joe this would be truely an illegal item in the USA... unless you paid the $200 ATF tax under the National Firearms Act of 1934... I doubt it would be worth it... This is some unaware amateurs attempt to steady his Luger pistol while shooting. I would not advise investing any money in this item. If you want a Luger stock... get one of the reproductions that faithfully reproduce the original type... and be mindful of the law concerning what types of Lugers it may be used with...

Dwight Gruber · 05-02-2006, 12:49 PM

This might actually be interesting to use with one of the truly long-barrel (16 1/4 inches, or more) Luger modifications.

--Dwight

Parabellus · 05-07-2006, 03:40 PM

John,

Where is the best place to look for such rules and regs for modifying weapons, especially Lugers? The NRA site lists lots of assault rifles. Would a Luger modified with this stock be considered such?

Russell

thompsonjoe · 05-07-2006, 05:05 PM

Took it to a gun show today and with the help of a Military gun Collector we set his 1917 Luger right into it..Knowing it was illegal, He was astonished and it looked weird with the short barrel. He said it may have been made for the civilian long barrel Luger, not militay. He did not beleive it was home made. He belived the carvings were done very precise, even the cut out for the clip release button !!! There is a hole in the forend area, supported with metal, which he said proably screwed in the barrel.
And no one else at the show could identify the stock. I still have some research to do!

Anyone with any other thoughts?

thanks Joe

George Anderson · 05-07-2006, 06:23 PM

Given the very crude cuttings on the inside of the stock, I believe that what you have is a rifle stock that has been goofed around with to accomodate a Luger. A photo of the stock with the luger inset might help us here. I would not be concerned about the BATF guys because this contraption probably does not rise to the level of a detachable stock.

thompsonjoe · 05-07-2006, 07:12 PM

Yes, I believed it was carved out of another stock as well, but No one can identify the original stock. I have had it to 7 different gun shops over the past month and had approx 12 different collectors look at it today. No one has a clue!
Thanks

fred p · 05-07-2006, 07:37 PM

the checkering pattern looks like an old browning shotgun stock that my grandfather has. though his is an automatic and the stocks are separate from one another. it may have been cut from another style browning gun. possibilities are endless.

fred p

Steinar · 05-08-2006, 05:03 AM

I once had a single barrel belgian shotgun, the stock was very much alike.. But there might be a dozen old stocks that looks like yours thompsonjoe, looks pretty "standard" before it was carved out. Good luck finding the source

John Sabato · 05-08-2006, 11:02 AM

Sorry it took so long to respond... all your answers can be found on the ATF website... it will take a bunch of research, but it is there... Ask here for the quick answer, and look there for the detailed answers once you are "armed" with the right search questions.

04-30-2006, 09:36 PM	#1
thompsonjoe User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Artilliery Luger Stock ???? Was told this was used to convert an Artilliery Luger into a mini Rifle Anyone with knowledge of this..???? Thanks

05-01-2006, 06:48 AM	#2
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Welcome to the forum thompsonjoe! Not an original "Luger item".. Do you know how it was attached? __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-01-2006, 06:50 PM	#3
thompsonjoe User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	luger stock I was told it dropped in and was held by the upper and lower metal plates, by loosening the plates and then tightening...1 locked behind the trigger and the lower ??? Thanks

05-02-2006, 11:21 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Joe this would be truely an illegal item in the USA... unless you paid the $200 ATF tax under the National Firearms Act of 1934... I doubt it would be worth it... This is some unaware amateurs attempt to steady his Luger pistol while shooting. I would not advise investing any money in this item. If you want a Luger stock... get one of the reproductions that faithfully reproduce the original type... and be mindful of the law concerning what types of Lugers it may be used with... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-07-2006, 03:40 PM	#6
Parabellus User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SF Bay Posts: 195 Thanks: 16 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	John, Where is the best place to look for such rules and regs for modifying weapons, especially Lugers? The NRA site lists lots of assault rifles. Would a Luger modified with this stock be considered such? Russell __________________

05-02-2006, 12:49 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	This might actually be interesting to use with one of the truly long-barrel (16 1/4 inches, or more) Luger modifications. --Dwight

05-07-2006, 05:05 PM	#7
thompsonjoe User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stock Took it to a gun show today and with the help of a Military gun Collector we set his 1917 Luger right into it..Knowing it was illegal, He was astonished and it looked weird with the short barrel. He said it may have been made for the civilian long barrel Luger, not militay. He did not beleive it was home made. He belived the carvings were done very precise, even the cut out for the clip release button !!! There is a hole in the forend area, supported with metal, which he said proably screwed in the barrel. And no one else at the show could identify the stock. I still have some research to do! Anyone with any other thoughts? thanks Joe

05-07-2006, 06:23 PM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Given the very crude cuttings on the inside of the stock, I believe that what you have is a rifle stock that has been goofed around with to accomodate a Luger. A photo of the stock with the luger inset might help us here. I would not be concerned about the BATF guys because this contraption probably does not rise to the level of a detachable stock.

05-07-2006, 07:12 PM	#9
thompsonjoe User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, I believed it was carved out of another stock as well, but No one can identify the original stock. I have had it to 7 different gun shops over the past month and had approx 12 different collectors look at it today. No one has a clue! Thanks

05-07-2006, 07:37 PM	#10
fred p User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: N.C. usa Posts: 86 Thanks: 10 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	the checkering pattern looks like an old browning shotgun stock that my grandfather has. though his is an automatic and the stocks are separate from one another. it may have been cut from another style browning gun. possibilities are endless. fred p __________________ if it's broke I'll either fix it or I'll fix it so no one else can fix it.

05-08-2006, 05:03 AM	#11
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	I once had a single barrel belgian shotgun, the stock was very much alike.. But there might be a dozen old stocks that looks like yours thompsonjoe, looks pretty "standard" before it was carved out. Good luck finding the source __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

05-08-2006, 11:02 AM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Sorry it took so long to respond... all your answers can be found on the ATF website... it will take a bunch of research, but it is there... Ask here for the quick answer, and look there for the detailed answers once you are "armed" with the right search questions. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*