Help with Holster Marking

thorin6 · 03-15-2006, 12:08 AM

Picked this Holster up off ebay--description did not include marking, and just recently noticed the maker's name (I assume). Can't quite make it out, and hoping someone can help.
I can see that the bottom line says BERLIN 1915, just not sure of the maker's name on the top line.
Thanks for the help.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-15-2006, 12:41 AM

I have seen my share of WW1 holsters but have never seen one with a maker mark on the closure strap! This will be one for my archives..Jerry Burney

wlyon · 03-15-2006, 01:19 AM

The only information I can find is the manufacturer is Flatow and Priemer' Berlin. My references only show their names. Bill

Hugh · 03-15-2006, 01:56 AM

My reference shows a PLATOW u. PREMER, Berlin, 1915; production period WWI.

Ron Smith · 03-15-2006, 09:33 AM

I have a 1915 by the same maker, but not stamped on the strap. Interesting!

Ron

George Anderson · 03-15-2006, 09:36 AM

That's the damndest thing I have ever seen as far as maker marks go. Perhaps after assembling the holster someone realized it had not been marked and picked the strap as the easiest place. I have always believed that maker's stamps were applied to components prior to assembly.

Navy · 03-15-2006, 09:05 PM

I have run across maybe 3-4 with marks on the closure strap. Suggests that what we think is the "rule" ain't necessarily so. I believe those hard headed german saddlers made holsters the way they wished to within the general military spec and didn't give a pfennig what some quartermaster in Potsdam thought.

Tom A.

thorin6 · 03-15-2006, 09:40 PM

Didn't think this was anything other than a regular WWI brown Luger holster. Don't think the person selling it saw the marking on the strap either.
Here is a picture of the inside of the lid, with another mark, a "JR41" and underneath a faint marking that looks like something that ends in a number 1.
Does this mean anything?

Navy · 03-16-2006, 08:09 AM

Infantry Regiment 41 or can also be jaeger regiment 41.

Tom A

George Anderson · 03-16-2006, 09:41 AM

Only 14 Jaeger Regiments in the Imperial army plus two Bavarian. That would lead one to believe that it is Infantry Regiment 41.

thorin6 · 03-16-2006, 11:23 PM

Thanks, I appreciate all the help in identifying the marks on this holster. Hope I added something to the history of WWI Luger holsters as well.

Ron Smith · 03-16-2006, 11:33 PM

Everytime someone shows something that is new to experienced, as well as novice collectors. There has been a valuable contribution. We are here to learn as well as teach.

Thanks! Ron

03-15-2006, 12:08 AM	#1
thorin6 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help with Holster Marking Picked this Holster up off ebay--description did not include marking, and just recently noticed the maker's name (I assume). Can't quite make it out, and hoping someone can help. I can see that the bottom line says BERLIN 1915, just not sure of the maker's name on the top line. Thanks for the help.

03-15-2006, 12:41 AM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,774 Thanks: 4,968 Thanked 3,127 Times in 1,436 Posts	I have seen my share of WW1 holsters but have never seen one with a maker mark on the closure strap! This will be one for my archives..Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-15-2006, 01:19 AM	#3
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,642 Thanks: 3,193 Thanked 2,580 Times in 961 Posts	The only information I can find is the manufacturer is Flatow and Priemer' Berlin. My references only show their names. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

03-15-2006, 01:56 AM	#4
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	My reference shows a PLATOW u. PREMER, Berlin, 1915; production period WWI. __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

03-15-2006, 09:33 AM	#5
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I have a 1915 by the same maker, but not stamped on the strap. Interesting! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-15-2006, 09:36 AM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,530 Times in 787 Posts	That's the damndest thing I have ever seen as far as maker marks go. Perhaps after assembling the holster someone realized it had not been marked and picked the strap as the easiest place. I have always believed that maker's stamps were applied to components prior to assembly.

03-15-2006, 09:05 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	I have run across maybe 3-4 with marks on the closure strap. Suggests that what we think is the "rule" ain't necessarily so. I believe those hard headed german saddlers made holsters the way they wished to within the general military spec and didn't give a pfennig what some quartermaster in Potsdam thought. Tom A.

03-15-2006, 09:40 PM	#8
thorin6 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This has become interesting Didn't think this was anything other than a regular WWI brown Luger holster. Don't think the person selling it saw the marking on the strap either. Here is a picture of the inside of the lid, with another mark, a "JR41" and underneath a faint marking that looks like something that ends in a number 1. Does this mean anything?

03-16-2006, 08:09 AM	#9
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Infantry Regiment 41 or can also be jaeger regiment 41. Tom A

03-16-2006, 09:41 AM	#10
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,530 Times in 787 Posts	Only 14 Jaeger Regiments in the Imperial army plus two Bavarian. That would lead one to believe that it is Infantry Regiment 41.

03-16-2006, 11:23 PM	#11
thorin6 User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, I appreciate all the help in identifying the marks on this holster. Hope I added something to the history of WWI Luger holsters as well.

03-16-2006, 11:33 PM	#12
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Everytime someone shows something that is new to experienced, as well as novice collectors. There has been a valuable contribution. We are here to learn as well as teach. Thanks! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...