Can anyone replace a stock lug????

P. J. Heck · 03-01-2006, 08:48 AM

I just looked at a true gem......couldnt ask for a better 06 Navy......but, stock lug removed, enough to turn your stomach. Any one ever had one replaced???? I have considerable amatuer machining experience, and the amount of curves and angles would make it rather tough in my opinion. Unless.........cut up a frame from a donor and section it in??????

Edward Tinker · 03-01-2006, 09:33 AM

That is what they do PJ. I think there are a lot of guns out there that had stock lugs removed and replaced over the years... But it has to be done well or looks like "heck".

I wouldn't attempt it myself...

Ed

Doug G. · 03-01-2006, 10:09 AM

Ted would have to refinish the backstrap, couldn't whoever is cutting the Babies do this? All they would have to do is locate a donor frame and weld the new piece on.

Edward Tinker · 03-01-2006, 10:22 AM

Heck, something to keep in mind; You still are looking at a modified, i.e. shooter navy. If it gets "restored" it should never be worth what a real, non-modified navy is worth...

Ed

P. J. Heck · 03-01-2006, 12:07 PM

I am aware, Ed. I was and still am looking for a suitable Navy shooter (not collector condition) but the price tag here was well over a comfortable range for a shooter. Owner is not a Luger guy and didnt know it had been removed. I knew from the pictures that this was a pristine gun from the amount of remaining straw and the minimal wear on the sideplate hump. Photos may have showed the back strap but if they did I just plain missed it.

Edward Tinker · 03-01-2006, 07:13 PM

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I am aware, Ed. I was and still am looking for a suitable Navy shooter...

Sorry, comment was meant for other not as well versed collectors PJ

Ed

PS: Now if you had a Simson to trade, I know where a rougher shape navy is...

P. J. Heck · 03-02-2006, 09:59 AM

Wow, Ed, you really know how to hurt a fellow.............All I can muster is good ole American cash......Will cash soothe the loss to the point it will be on hand when a Simson does come along???????? Dont forget, I am looking for a Simson, w/all the unique features, fancy toggle marking, fat grips, match mag, power steering and brakes, am/fm stereo........ I had a shooter grade 06 some time back but John Lockwood wanted one so I let him have it. I had several Navies and he had none. Got any old electric trains?????

Edward Tinker · 03-02-2006, 10:14 AM

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Wow, Ed, you really know how to hurt a fellow.............

ooops, was meant the other way, that guys who don't know much could learn, and not directed at you

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Originally posted by P. J. Heck
Got any old electric trains?????

nope, none of that stuff (although i like 'em too), just no room for more "hobbies"

I only have the one navy and a navy turned police, so it'd be hard to pull from my little hands

P. J. Heck · 03-02-2006, 07:13 PM

In rooting around through the milk house, I found a very battered Civil War short sword. The ones I saw in Gettysburg museum were marked Union and Confederate. I could not tell the difference in appearance. May have been some quality level difference that wasnt apparent. Who would know how to tell which side this one is from????? PS, just got a 1916 DWM in the mail, 2 match mags and holster that needs Jerry Burney. Gun is really nice but for a spider webby like place on the sideplate and the second match mag. is chipped on both sides. Will call on Hugh for that. May not keep it........Did I post pictures of the neat bipod 9mm sub gun I got recently???? We were playing with it again today, ran four drums through it. Really a slick fun gun. Had a dangerous hiccup on some old Egyptian 9mm ammo, suspect soft primers allowed a cartidge to discharge before fully chambered, leaving the bullet 4" into the bore, bolt cocked and ready to fire the next round. Shooter and I both noticed the problem and stopped the gun before that could happen. Any one else got any old Egyptian should be wary........

Pete Ebbink · 03-03-2006, 12:09 AM

PJ,

Have you contacted Art Buchanan from MO...he is quite the gunsmith.

I would suspect you would have to donate a lugged grip strap for the project.

P. J. Heck · 03-03-2006, 05:29 AM

Hey, Pete, been awhile!!!!! Been a development in this deal........I sent the gun back and then he has offered it back at an acceptable price. I am glad to hear of your man. I guess I am looking for a donor now.........Know of a WW 1 frame around???? If so, contact me asap. I tried to get in touch w/old Mr. Norman in Galveston about the 1900 Swiss he could not decide to part w/but I suspect he has died. Will try again and keep you posted on what ever happens. Did you see my 'stuff' from the past few months on Stills site under the 1920 Commercial heading????

Lugerdoc · 03-03-2006, 09:46 AM

I don't do the welding, but do have the stock lug portion of several PO8 back straps available @$40 each. Tom Heller POB 398 St.Charles, MO. 63302.

Daniel · 03-03-2006, 10:56 AM

Art fabricated a luger stock lug for me and used a piece of scrap steel, didn't need a "donor" backstrap. Looks original enough for me. Art does excellent restoration work. He stays pretty busy, but could be worth a telephone call.
Best regards.

P. J. Heck · 03-03-2006, 09:48 PM

Do you remember what the tarriff was????????? I guess I need a phone number for him or some way to connect..............

03-01-2006, 08:48 AM	#1
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can anyone replace a stock lug???? I just looked at a true gem......couldnt ask for a better 06 Navy......but, stock lug removed, enough to turn your stomach. Any one ever had one replaced???? I have considerable amatuer machining experience, and the amount of curves and angles would make it rather tough in my opinion. Unless.........cut up a frame from a donor and section it in?????? __________________ There are no bad guns!

03-01-2006, 10:09 AM	#3
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Ted would have to refinish the backstrap, couldn't whoever is cutting the Babies do this? All they would have to do is locate a donor frame and weld the new piece on. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

03-01-2006, 12:07 PM	#5
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am aware, Ed. I was and still am looking for a suitable Navy shooter (not collector condition) but the price tag here was well over a comfortable range for a shooter. Owner is not a Luger guy and didnt know it had been removed. I knew from the pictures that this was a pristine gun from the amount of remaining straw and the minimal wear on the sideplate hump. Photos may have showed the back strap but if they did I just plain missed it. __________________ There are no bad guns!

03-02-2006, 09:59 AM	#7
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wow, Ed, you really know how to hurt a fellow.............All I can muster is good ole American cash......Will cash soothe the loss to the point it will be on hand when a Simson does come along???????? Dont forget, I am looking for a Simson, w/all the unique features, fancy toggle marking, fat grips, match mag, power steering and brakes, am/fm stereo........ I had a shooter grade 06 some time back but John Lockwood wanted one so I let him have it. I had several Navies and he had none. Got any old electric trains????? __________________ There are no bad guns!

03-02-2006, 07:13 PM	#9
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	In rooting around through the milk house, I found a very battered Civil War short sword. The ones I saw in Gettysburg museum were marked Union and Confederate. I could not tell the difference in appearance. May have been some quality level difference that wasnt apparent. Who would know how to tell which side this one is from????? PS, just got a 1916 DWM in the mail, 2 match mags and holster that needs Jerry Burney. Gun is really nice but for a spider webby like place on the sideplate and the second match mag. is chipped on both sides. Will call on Hugh for that. May not keep it........Did I post pictures of the neat bipod 9mm sub gun I got recently???? We were playing with it again today, ran four drums through it. Really a slick fun gun. Had a dangerous hiccup on some old Egyptian 9mm ammo, suspect soft primers allowed a cartidge to discharge before fully chambered, leaving the bullet 4" into the bore, bolt cocked and ready to fire the next round. Shooter and I both noticed the problem and stopped the gun before that could happen. Any one else got any old Egyptian should be wary........ __________________ There are no bad guns!

03-01-2006, 09:33 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	That is what they do PJ. I think there are a lot of guns out there that had stock lugs removed and replaced over the years... But it has to be done well or looks like "heck". I wouldn't attempt it myself... Ed

03-01-2006, 10:22 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	Heck, something to keep in mind; You still are looking at a modified, i.e. shooter navy. If it gets "restored" it should never be worth what a real, non-modified navy is worth... Ed

03-03-2006, 12:09 AM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	PJ, Have you contacted Art Buchanan from MO...he is quite the gunsmith. I would suspect you would have to donate a lugged grip strap for the project.

03-03-2006, 05:29 AM	#11
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey, Pete, been awhile!!!!! Been a development in this deal........I sent the gun back and then he has offered it back at an acceptable price. I am glad to hear of your man. I guess I am looking for a donor now.........Know of a WW 1 frame around???? If so, contact me asap. I tried to get in touch w/old Mr. Norman in Galveston about the 1900 Swiss he could not decide to part w/but I suspect he has died. Will try again and keep you posted on what ever happens. Did you see my 'stuff' from the past few months on Stills site under the 1920 Commercial heading???? __________________ There are no bad guns!

03-03-2006, 09:46 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I don't do the welding, but do have the stock lug portion of several PO8 back straps available @$40 each. Tom Heller POB 398 St.Charles, MO. 63302. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-03-2006, 10:56 AM	#13
Daniel User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ct. and Ma. Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Art fabricated a luger stock lug for me and used a piece of scrap steel, didn't need a "donor" backstrap. Looks original enough for me. Art does excellent restoration work. He stays pretty busy, but could be worth a telephone call. Best regards.

03-03-2006, 09:48 PM	#14
P. J. Heck User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southeast Ohio Posts: 200 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Do you remember what the tarriff was????????? I guess I need a phone number for him or some way to connect.............. __________________ There are no bad guns!