a movie about Luger's

[venix]

Hi,

I am an Australian film maker and i am currently in the process of writing a feature film that features a series of short film's that span from ww2 to the present day. Each short film isn completely different and the element that ties them together is a german Luger.

I am currently in the process of doing research and finding out just what kind of stories are around involving Luger's in any way.

I figured the best place to come would be here.

So here is your oppurtunity folks. If you have any stories or you know any stories involivng Luger's in any way. Have your say

Kind regards

-Venix

[Edward Tinker]

maziar, sent you an e-mail.

Ed

[John -Melb]

Sounds like an Aussie version of "American Gun"

Sorry Venix, not interested

[Vlim]

Hi,

If you're in Australia and want an interesting story line including a Luger, you should check out part of the Dutch East-indies legacy. A large number of Dutch military evacuated from the Indonesian islands and reached Australia, taking their Dutch KNIL luger with them.

[John -Melb]

Gerben,
I could be mistaken, but I think this fellow's "anti".

I'm betting the "movie" will be about how evil the Luger is, the people that get hurt by it's mere presence, and what a great job Howard done getting rid of all those nasty guns. I'm betting the movie will involve some unbalanced war veteran theatening his neighbors, a murder or two, a couple of armed robberies and at least one suicide.

Australian gun owners have ALMOST NO friends in the entertainment/media industry.

[Ron Smith]

I have often thought of checking to determine , if whereby the, governing or law making body, of a city, state, or country, deprives a law abiding citizen of their means of defending themselves. And that citizen falls victim of a crime in which, if they would have had the means to defend themselves, could have successfully done so. Why couldn't the governing body that deprived them of that means be held legally responsible?

Has anyone else ever heard or read of this. I'm sure that it's been tried. Cause I sure as heck ain't no great legal mind!

RS

As far as a Luger story goes. If he is such a worldly and studied film maker. He should read Steinbeck's "Of Mice and Men".

[John -Melb]

Ron,
Case reported on Melbourne radio yesterday, homeowner belts intruder with baseball bat, homeowner has been charged with assault

go figure!

[John -Melb]

Sorry to re-open an old thread but I think it's relevant.

The attached dribble was recently published in the West Australian, it goes a long way in displaying the Australian media industry's attitude to the recreational ownership of firearms, such articles are faily common.
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From the West Australian newspaper; Thursday 16 February 2006
Columnist Andre Malan


Hearts aquiver when Cheney shoots quail

Dick Cheney is one of the most powerful men on earth. Only a heartbeat away from the presidency, he is a flag bearer for the reigning neo-conservative hawks in the US and his sway has helped send nations to war.

How patheticâ??and worryingâ??to learn that an important and influential figure like that gets his kicks from blasting the life out of defenceless little
birds he has no intention of eating.

Last Saturday, Mr Cheney was out hunting quail with a party including a
friend of his, Harry Whittington, when he accidentally sprayed the 78-year-old Texan lawyer in the face, neck and chest with birdshot. Mr Whittington has since suffered a heart attack cuased by a piece of lead lodged in his heart.
Incredibly, the fact that the Vice-President of the US had shot and seriously injured a person was not disclosed to the news media for almost 24 hours and police did not get around to interviewing Mr Cheney or other members of the hunting party until the day after the shooting. It also transpired that Mr Cheney and Mr Whittington had been hunting illegally, without the required game bird stamps on their shooting licences.

The incident has provided instant fodder for headline writers, comics and bloggers who have tied their quips in with Mr Cheneyâ??s political reputation.

The Herald in Scotland wrote, â??Cheney Bags a Lawyerâ?�, while the Sydney Morning Herald headlined its online story â??Cheney Hunts Quail and everyone Else Ducksâ?�.

Late-night TV comic David Letterman announced: â??Good news, ladies and gentlemen, we have finally located weapons of mass destruction. Itâ??s Dick
Cheneyâ?�.

â??We canâ??t get Bin Laden,â?� he added, â??but we nailed a 78-year-old attorneyâ?�.

Officially, it appears that no blame can be attached to Mr Cheney for the shooting and the accident was the fault of Mr Whittington, who broke the accepted rules and etiquette of hunting parties by moving out of the line to retrieve a downed bird and copped it from the vice-presidential shotgun.

Of more concern than that, though, is the revelation that Mr Cheney willingly indulges in a cowardly and unsavoury activity like quail shooting, presumably without feeling any shame. Put another way, do we really want to entrust the running of the worldâ??s only superpower to people with souls so bleak that they feel no shame in killing animals just for the hell of it?

It is certainly not sport. Sport is an even contest between well matched competitors in which skill and courage help one to prevail over the other.
Bird shooting, even more than fox hunting, is an ugly, one-sided activity in which powerful weapons are used to destroy the lives of defenceless creatures.

Even if you discount the mindless killing of birds and the risk of killing or injuring your fellow hunters, shooting birds of any sort inevitably results in a number of wounded birds being made to suffer and in some non-game birds and protected species becoming â??collateral damageâ?�, as Mr Cheney would probably describe it.

Fortunately quail and duck shooting is in rapid decline in Australia. WA was the first State to ban it and NSW and Queensland have since followed suit.
In other States the number of hunters has been drastically reduced by public awareness campaigns.

When the WA government banned recreational duck shooting in 1990, then-premier Carmen Lawrence declared that the community had reached a stage of enlightenment where it could no longer accept the institutionalised killing of birds for recreation.

Dare we hope that the US will soon reach a similar state of enlightenment?

andre.malan@wanews.com.au

[Don M]

Dare we hope that Andre will be assaulted by a crazed crackhead?

[Ron Smith]

I wonder if Andre is a vegetarian ? Probably one of the "I'll eat it only if someone else kills it" types.

Hypocrite!! The most despicable kind of coward. I just e-mailed him a letter stating so. He'll probably have his boy friend beat me up.

[wlyon]

As a forester for 32 years prior to my retirement, I can only hope that people will not believe the misinformation from the newspaper article.

I am tired of the misinformed, amateur environmentalist whom we hear from every time we try to do something. How they can acquire that much knowledge in a few short years is simply amazing.

Hunting under regulated management situations is one of the better tools to maintain the correct population of game/birds. We only have so much feed, particularly in the winter, for birds and animals to utilize. Overcrowding results in death by starvation and/or disease.

If some of the do-gooders would have to go out in late winter and eleminate the deer and elk that are so starved they cannot stand up, perhaps hunting would appear more humane.

Nobody respects wildlife more than I do. I spent my working career protecting them, watching them, enjoying them, improving habitat for them, and, yes, hunting them. It is about the only tool we have.

I hope we do not get persuaded by the "dicky-birders" as Australia has.

[Snakeman]

We all see how well the Aussies have taken care of their environment. What with the cane toad disaster, rabbit and feral cat populations running rampant and other ecological boo-boos they must ban hunting as the only way to preserve what little there is left of the natural fauna.

[Big Norm]

I didn't read in the American anywhere where it was stated that Mr Cheney was not going to eat his game. Personally, I would like to send him a list of lawyers from Michigan that I would like him to go shooting with. But i guess that he probably has a list of his own. (Hee! Hee!)

Aside from that, I read that Mr Cheney was using a 28 ga shotgun. Granted that a pat is just a little bigger than a robin, but that shotgun is just a little bigger than a 410. Not much of a pattern in those shotguns for shooting 30 plus feet. I can successfully bring down a pheasant with a 410 Mossberg, but a pheasant is slower than a grouse. So I used to bring pheasants down at a closer distance.

For grouse, I use my trusty 12 ga single shot. If I miss with that shotgun, I figure that the bird was smarter than me and deserved to get away. I stopped using my Stevenson humpback while grouse hunting. I used up too much ammo and was too heavy to carry for 10 hours of hunting. One year, I got two grouse but used up almost three boxes of shells. I never pretended to be a good shot, but I do hunt some rough country filled with prickly crab apple and thick berry bushes. The grouse flush too far out in the more open oak stands. But I have fun and I do eat what I kill. Grouse breast tastes great after boiled in onion soup in the field after a hunt.
Big Norm