Question for the pros

Ninor · 07-10-2005, 09:38 AM

My Uncle has what appears to be a gold plated Luger with pearl handles. It has the DWC engraving on the top and a slew of various serial numbers etc on it.

Despite trolling the web I can't find any images of a similar weapon and was wondering if you guys here might have any idea as to its origins.

Ninor

PS: Sorry, had hoped to put in a photo but despite trying several methods I keep getting messages the file size is to big. If someone here might have a clue as to the origin of the weapon I'll just email you a picture as a J.peg.

Thanks in advance

Ron Smith · 07-10-2005, 09:58 AM

Hello Nick, There are any number of such "dressed up" Lugers out there.

The story that usually accompanies them is that they belonged to, or were presented to a Nazi official or high ranking officer. Unfortunately, there is no historical evidence that this is the case. Usually they are someones idea of making them look better. And were done after they were brought back to the U.S.

It's very unfortunate that this was done as it destroys any collector interest or value. They will sell in the $400-$500 range as "purty" shooters or novelties.

Ron

Edward Tinker · 07-10-2005, 10:51 AM

Nick, welcome to the forum!

Ron is correct, but probably put the number of real, dressed up lugers as a handful, and they are known to the collecting frat, so any others, well the chance of them being real is nill.

Over the last 20 years, there have been several "made-up" guns sold for over 2k by a company called Mitchel (if I remember right) and a few others, but I really think the resale value is far less, to most collectors, the value is like what Ron said.

Ed

It is fairly easy to shrink pictures, the trick is learning the ways to do it.

Edward Tinker · 07-10-2005, 11:35 AM

Pictures posted,

Ed

Dwight Gruber · 07-10-2005, 01:28 PM

There was one of these floating around gun shows in Oregon a while back, actually more heavily plated than the one pictured, with mastodon ivory (i.e., legal) grips. Asking price was $800, would have been an interesting buy at half that (but the mastodon grips were -truly ugly-, even worse than the gun...).

--Dwight

Ninor · 07-10-2005, 11:50 PM

Thanks for posting the photos Ed..much appreciated. My Uncle claims the pearl handles are real. Will be going to have that verified this week at a jewelry store.

N

Scott H. · 07-11-2005, 09:29 AM

tac, Are silver bullets readily available in 9mm for vampire slaying?

I have never seen a Luger used in any vampire movie. The gold and silver would look nice together!

Scott

Ninor · 07-11-2005, 10:22 AM

Quite alright Mr tac,

I've never taken the English seriously so no problem

N

unspellable · 07-11-2005, 02:06 PM

Silver bullets are used for werewolves, not vampires. Like any other bullet they have no permanent effect on a vampire.

Ron Wood · 07-11-2005, 04:19 PM

How about wooden bullets for a vampire? The 1907 Dansk Schouboe would be the obvious choice for dispatching Count Dracula (of course it would take a heart shot).

Heinz · 07-11-2005, 09:34 PM

Esteemed Tac
'Fel arfur ein cyn daddau' is either beyond my Gaelic or is more likely one of those other languages the Ig is fluent in. Could I have a hint so I can puzzle it out?

G.W. Gill · 07-12-2005, 12:46 AM

HI!

unspellable · 07-12-2005, 02:05 PM

Epiphany! The vampire question is what the nickle plated Lugers are all about! The reflective finish will keep our friend dazzled while we deal with him in other ways. (Vampires don't like mirrors.) Meanwhile the same pistol will suffice in dealing with his henchman Igor. Loaded with silver bullets we also have the werewolf problem well in hand. I knew the Germans weren't crazy when they produced those rare nickle plated specials.

07-10-2005, 09:38 AM	#1
Ninor New User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question for the pros My Uncle has what appears to be a gold plated Luger with pearl handles. It has the DWC engraving on the top and a slew of various serial numbers etc on it. Despite trolling the web I can't find any images of a similar weapon and was wondering if you guys here might have any idea as to its origins. Ninor PS: Sorry, had hoped to put in a photo but despite trying several methods I keep getting messages the file size is to big. If someone here might have a clue as to the origin of the weapon I'll just email you a picture as a J.peg. Thanks in advance

07-10-2005, 09:58 AM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hello Nick, There are any number of such "dressed up" Lugers out there. The story that usually accompanies them is that they belonged to, or were presented to a Nazi official or high ranking officer. Unfortunately, there is no historical evidence that this is the case. Usually they are someones idea of making them look better. And were done after they were brought back to the U.S. It's very unfortunate that this was done as it destroys any collector interest or value. They will sell in the $400-$500 range as "purty" shooters or novelties. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

07-11-2005, 04:19 PM	#10
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	How about wooden bullets for a vampire? The 1907 Dansk Schouboe would be the obvious choice for dispatching Count Dracula (of course it would take a heart shot). __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

07-10-2005, 10:51 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Nick, welcome to the forum! Ron is correct, but probably put the number of real, dressed up lugers as a handful, and they are known to the collecting frat, so any others, well the chance of them being real is nill. Over the last 20 years, there have been several "made-up" guns sold for over 2k by a company called Mitchel (if I remember right) and a few others, but I really think the resale value is far less, to most collectors, the value is like what Ron said. Ed It is fairly easy to shrink pictures, the trick is learning the ways to do it.

07-10-2005, 11:35 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Pictures posted, Ed

07-10-2005, 01:28 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,890 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,282 Times in 424 Posts	There was one of these floating around gun shows in Oregon a while back, actually more heavily plated than the one pictured, with mastodon ivory (i.e., legal) grips. Asking price was $800, would have been an interesting buy at half that (but the mastodon grips were -truly ugly-, even worse than the gun...). --Dwight

07-10-2005, 11:50 PM	#6
Ninor New User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for posting the photos Ed..much appreciated. My Uncle claims the pearl handles are real. Will be going to have that verified this week at a jewelry store. N

07-11-2005, 09:29 AM	#7
Scott H. User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 66 Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	tac, Are silver bullets readily available in 9mm for vampire slaying? I have never seen a Luger used in any vampire movie. The gold and silver would look nice together! Scott

07-11-2005, 10:22 AM	#8
Ninor New User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quite alright Mr tac, I've never taken the English seriously so no problem N

07-11-2005, 02:06 PM	#9
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Silver bullets are used for werewolves, not vampires. Like any other bullet they have no permanent effect on a vampire.

07-11-2005, 09:34 PM	#11
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	Esteemed Tac 'Fel arfur ein cyn daddau' is either beyond my Gaelic or is more likely one of those other languages the Ig is fluent in. Could I have a hint so I can puzzle it out?

07-12-2005, 12:46 AM	#12
G.W. Gill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 369 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	HI!

07-12-2005, 02:05 PM	#13
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Epiphany! The vampire question is what the nickle plated Lugers are all about! The reflective finish will keep our friend dazzled while we deal with him in other ways. (Vampires don't like mirrors.) Meanwhile the same pistol will suffice in dealing with his henchman Igor. Loaded with silver bullets we also have the werewolf problem well in hand. I knew the Germans weren't crazy when they produced those rare nickle plated specials.