Inflation

tracyp · 03-03-2005, 06:17 PM

http://www.simpsonltd.com/GeneralInf...n/WhatsNew.htm

Checkout Simpson's latest Lugers. WOW, look at the prices. The cheapest is $1895. It's a 1916 DWM Military. How do you get a poor bore when the blueing is 98% and the strawing is 90%?

All of you retired guys will have to go back to work if you want to buy a Luger.

Tracy

Tomathvl · 03-03-2005, 07:09 PM

Tracy,
One possible answer would be the corrosive ammo used at that time. Also, poor cleaning practices after firing would tend to exacerbate the situation.
Tom

John D. · 03-03-2005, 07:15 PM

Tracy..

I have to agree with you.... I just posted on Jan's site about HK Lugers to a new owner - and I bit my tongue a bit.... HKs have suffered from "I'm a new collector with money" - and "dealers" who boost prices to meet their wallet.

Prices today are simply silly.

Many dealers are asking "STUPID" prices in hopes of attacting the "new" collector. Are they "real" prices?

I dunno - if someone is foolish enough to pay those prices - shame on them.... There are some realistic dealers/collectors out there. Neither in this case nor for "Krieghoffs". Lately - dealers have set the price on the "silly" scale.

And oh - I can say that. I just "marvel" at HK prices... Good for any dealer - if they get their asking price. This is America, after all....

Frankly - I'm just glad I bought most of my HKs before most dealers discovered "Internet" pricing and Internet customers....

John D.

George Anderson · 03-04-2005, 07:56 AM

I am quite certain that the two big dealers have a list of well healed customers whom most of us don't even know are collectors. One such person, a Hollywood type, has bought Lugers from me in the past and I know he is a "client" of one of these dealers. This fellow has no idea of value, condition or collectibility.

In fact he had bought several thousand dollars worth of Lugers from me before I realized that he had no good books on Lugers. I introduced him to Mr Still.

Several years ago I helped a doctor liquidate his collection of Lugers, with one exception the entire collection was bought from one dealer. The prices he paid for these guns, years earlier, would make one gag.

Doug G. · 03-04-2005, 09:05 AM

While Luger prices are nutty! You guy's should follow transferable machine gun pricing! They usually jump $100-300 every other month! Of course they do reach a threashold. This is usually when they hit $12,000-$20,000! I think that it is the same problem people who have lots of money just say I want it and don't care how much they spend. They probably light cigars with $100 bills!

tudorbug · 03-04-2005, 09:34 AM

There are several lugers on the Simpson site that I have much admired but I have been unwilling to spend the amount of money needed to buy them. One was the Navy luger that Tom now owns and which I looked at for a month before it was sold. Another example is this one:

http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/DWM/D-35/C5162.htm

very attractive to me since it is a published luger with a related regimental history book.

But, the pistol itself seems to my inexperienced eye to be about average in wear and tear and I can't bring myself to the level of money asked as a result.

I shall, however, continue to try to win our state lottery............ :-)

David

03-03-2005, 06:17 PM	#1
tracyp User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Inflation http://www.simpsonltd.com/GeneralInf...n/WhatsNew.htm Checkout Simpson's latest Lugers. WOW, look at the prices. The cheapest is $1895. It's a 1916 DWM Military. How do you get a poor bore when the blueing is 98% and the strawing is 90%? All of you retired guys will have to go back to work if you want to buy a Luger. Tracy

03-03-2005, 07:09 PM	#2
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Tracy, One possible answer would be the corrosive ammo used at that time. Also, poor cleaning practices after firing would tend to exacerbate the situation. Tom

03-03-2005, 07:15 PM	#3
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Tracy.. I have to agree with you.... I just posted on Jan's site about HK Lugers to a new owner - and I bit my tongue a bit.... HKs have suffered from "I'm a new collector with money" - and "dealers" who boost prices to meet their wallet. Prices today are simply silly. Many dealers are asking "STUPID" prices in hopes of attacting the "new" collector. Are they "real" prices? I dunno - if someone is foolish enough to pay those prices - shame on them.... There are some realistic dealers/collectors out there. Neither in this case nor for "Krieghoffs". Lately - dealers have set the price on the "silly" scale. And oh - I can say that. I just "marvel" at HK prices... Good for any dealer - if they get their asking price. This is America, after all.... Frankly - I'm just glad I bought most of my HKs before most dealers discovered "Internet" pricing and Internet customers.... John D.

03-04-2005, 07:56 AM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	I am quite certain that the two big dealers have a list of well healed customers whom most of us don't even know are collectors. One such person, a Hollywood type, has bought Lugers from me in the past and I know he is a "client" of one of these dealers. This fellow has no idea of value, condition or collectibility. In fact he had bought several thousand dollars worth of Lugers from me before I realized that he had no good books on Lugers. I introduced him to Mr Still. Several years ago I helped a doctor liquidate his collection of Lugers, with one exception the entire collection was bought from one dealer. The prices he paid for these guns, years earlier, would make one gag.

03-04-2005, 09:05 AM	#5
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	While Luger prices are nutty! You guy's should follow transferable machine gun pricing! They usually jump $100-300 every other month! Of course they do reach a threashold. This is usually when they hit $12,000-$20,000! I think that it is the same problem people who have lots of money just say I want it and don't care how much they spend. They probably light cigars with $100 bills!

03-04-2005, 09:34 AM	#6
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	There are several lugers on the Simpson site that I have much admired but I have been unwilling to spend the amount of money needed to buy them. One was the Navy luger that Tom now owns and which I looked at for a month before it was sold. Another example is this one: http://www.simpsonltd.com/LugerRoom/DWM/D-35/C5162.htm very attractive to me since it is a published luger with a related regimental history book. But, the pistol itself seems to my inexperienced eye to be about average in wear and tear and I can't bring myself to the level of money asked as a result. I shall, however, continue to try to win our state lottery............ :-) David