In-Coming CZ-24 Pistol & Holster

[Pete Ebbink]

Was lucky enough to pick up this nice little CZ-24 pistol and holster at the SE NAPCA event in TN.

Serial # 137833...figured it would be a nice shooter from time to time. Grips are mint without the typical chips at the bottom.

Note the photo with the white rag in the shot. I was using a little Renaissance wax and this is the rust that came up from just rubbing down the pistol with a little wax protectant.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

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[Pete Ebbink]

A few more photos :

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[the gunman]

Very Very nice pistol and holster pete

[Pete Ebbink]

Thanks, Richie...

Any ideas on the holster markings...?

The holster was not mated to the gun...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

[Tomathvl]

Pete, Pete, Pete,
You received the new one. Looks real nice. Of course, it looked even better in person.
See ya,
Tom

[John D.]

Hi Pete,

I have to agree with Tom - it looks almost "new"! Fantastic condition.....

Congratulations - and thanks for taking the time to post those pics!!!!

John

[Pete Ebbink]

Thanks, guys...

I have tried to convince myself over the past day or so that this might be a rework...

But every surface I take a little "Flitz" to with a Q-tip reveals a good brown/rust color on the white tip. Especially some of the inside frame surfaces and the bottom of some of the diagonal grooves along the receiver sides.

http://www.flitz.com/

I even removed some old "whiting" from the serial numbers and found some old rust in there under the old whiting. And the witness mark on top of the receiver "flat" at the base of the rear sight is full of old rust and crud...

The straw color of the trigger even gives up a bit of rust/oxidation...when wiped down with a Q-tip. Looking that strong, I thought for sure it was recently restrawed...

The bore of this pistol is the most factory-new condition I have seen in a pistol in a long time. Cannot imagine more than a small box of ammo ever was fired through this piece.

The gun's high polish finish is very similar to the finish I have on an early Sauer 38H and a 1930's PP as well.

Does anyone have a book reference that might list the production run serial numbers and years ? I have looked in Still's Axis Pistols and some old Ian Hogg books, but not much production numbers are there...

From the use of the brown bakelite grips, I think this one cannot be any earlier than 1926, when the CZ factory was moved into new digs...and the switch from wooden grips was made.

Or is there a CZ collector around that tracks serials...?

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

[Strider]

Pete, very nice addition you have there. I have a tube of Flitz at home and never thought of using it on any of my firearms before. Does it do anything to the bluing or strawing on the pistol? Or are you using it on areas not usually blued? Mags? Just curious, I have an old 22 rifle that I have been cleaning up and your mention of it gave some ideas as to shinning up the ammo tube for it and the trigger mechanism. Thanks.
Sid.

[Pete Ebbink]

Hi Sid,

I have both Simi-chrome and Flitz at home. I like Filtz as it seems it has less abrasive "grit" in the paste.

I use Flitz only to do the "testing" as Tom Armstrong and others on the LF have suggested in past postings. Usually on small areas that are hidden...just to see if some old oxidation/rust is there. If you see rust on the white rag or Q-tip; this is not 100% guarantee that the gun is original finsh...there is still the possiblity it was refinished years ago and has gained some patina/rust with the passing of time. But seeing some patina/rust and looking for other traits of "originality" makes the investigation more thorough.

On my shooters, however, I have use Flitz over the entire guns. You cannot believe how much rust comes off and the original bluing stays intact. Leaves a very nice "luster" to my shooters...I have even done so on my modern-day shooters (1990's to 1980's pistols...); making them all look great.

p.s. Forgot to mention, I use the "Liquid Metal Polish" Flitz product...seems to be a diluted form of their paste products...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

[Strider]

Hi Pete, I think I will give it a try on that 22. I just was not sure what it would do. I think that it will really make it look good being shined up again. Thanks for filling me in on this. Take care.
Sid.

[SteveM]

Pete,

Look up Bohemian at Stills site..He has a very large database on CZ's and would probably like to add yours. He can probably answer any of your questions.

SteveM

[Pete Ebbink]

A couple of more detailed photo scans :

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/petes_cz_24_1_large.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/petes_cz_24_1_large.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

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[minigun]

Most impressive. Your investigation reveals it is not a "re-finish"? Also, the Renaissance wax you speak of, is that just a protectant that can be used? I've never heard of it. And, will it harm wood (say for wood grips)? Thanks

[Thor]

STRIDER! DONT flitz ya strawing or fire bluing (especially the Luger I did for you!!!!!!), oxide type finishs like strawing and fire bluing are not durable enough, it will lighten those type of finishes over time.

[Pete Ebbink]

Richie,

Here is some info on Renaissance Wax product :

http://www.restorationproduct.com/renwaxinfo.html

Tom A. was the one that first brought this product to my attention. I have not used it on wood...I use the natural Watco danish oil on grips when they are dry.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

[Strider]

Pete, I tried out the Flitz this weekend and the it worked out good on the feed tube. I also saw what you meant about the rust. I tried it on a couple of areas and sure enough I could see the rust on the piece of cloth I was using. Sure shined up nice.

Thor, not to worry. Just using it on the 22.

Sid.