Sure Fire Rust Removal!

John Sabato · 05-29-2008, 03:39 PM

I like to share good news when I find it and today while browsing a machinist website I came across this method for the removal of rust from steel that is slicker than any other method I have ever seen.

Here is the link on this amazing technique that takes nothing more than stuff you probably already have around your house:

http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Qu...stremoval.html

Here is how well it works as a preview:

Before!

After!

For those gunsmiths and machinists whether professional or amateur, this website is a goldmine of interesting projects and ideas:

http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html

Enjoy!

LugerVern · 05-30-2008, 12:56 AM

John

I have never heard of using baking soda as the electrolyte, very interesting!

thanks

Vern

A.Mifsin · 05-30-2008, 02:58 AM

Thank You John, it is a great site

Alf

Ida-Alp · 05-31-2008, 10:55 PM

Thanks a lot, john--That saves a lot of time, work and mess!! Al

Zamo · 08-15-2008, 01:10 PM

Fantastic information. However, has anyone actually tried it on a "blued" pistol? Might this process possibly alter "rust blued" finishes? My concern is that it might produce more harm than good.

John Sabato · 08-15-2008, 01:16 PM

NOT recommended on "rust blued" finishes on guns because the BLUE is actually a form of RUST...

If anyone should intentionally use this process on a rust blued gun part, please post photos of the results here.

Dick Herman · 08-22-2008, 07:20 PM

John,

This is a really neat web site. I book marked them for reference.

I have used the rust removal technique to strip chromium plating off of brass. I used table salt for the electrolyte and a pot to hold the water and provide the positive pole.

Thanks for the lead.

Dick

flynt · 09-28-2008, 12:47 PM

HI,

I tried to access the website link, and it appears to be removed -- and John's pictures don't work either. Maybe this could be updated. Thanks.

Aaron · 09-28-2008, 03:22 PM

Me too.

A.Mifsin · 09-28-2008, 03:59 PM

Try this it worked for me

http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Qu...stremoval.html

Alf

John Sabato · 09-29-2008, 09:41 AM

Sorry guys, Frank Ford recently reorganized his website structure and the link changed... Alf had the correct link above.

loogee · 10-12-2008, 09:25 PM

John..
Can't access the website re: rust removal...got any tricks for me ??
Thanx.

A.Mifsin · 10-13-2008, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by loogee
John..
Can't access the website re: rust removal...got any tricks for me ??
Thanx.

Go to Frets.com http://www.frets.com/FRETSPages/pagelist.html

find Homeshop Tech Maching and Tool Making Articles.

Under Quick Tricks you will find:
Killing Rust While it Sleeps. and double click on it, that should work.

Alf

DonWallbaum · 11-24-2008, 06:19 PM

John;

Have a WWII era Mauser HSc that I need to de-rust to get rid of some minor flecking. I had been looking at bonding with steel wool.. .but is the finish on the HSc suitable for this type of treatment?

thx!

Don

John Sabato · 11-24-2008, 10:44 PM

Don, I am not sure what you mean by bonding with steel wool?

please explain.

DonWallbaum · 11-25-2008, 10:32 AM

Hi John;

Just mean that I was going to spend some quality time with steel wool on the Mauser. BUT, if electrolyic rust removal is more-better, I could go that route, but I don't know if that will also remove the current finish.

John Sabato · 11-25-2008, 10:45 AM

I believe that the electrolytic rust removal described in this thread MAY also remove gun blue finish... the only way to know is to try it on something non critical. Perhaps someone else has already tried that and will post the results here. Blue is in fact a type of rust.

FOUR ZERO "0000" steel wool and a good quality gun oil used very lightly will remove a small amount of surface rust without harming the overall finish... Some would recommend bronze wool... as it is less abrasive.

Went Blakely · 11-27-2008, 10:42 AM

That's correct John, i've done some research and it will sure strip it back to bare without any hassles, if you want to reblue or resto a project or something, no problems, but don't go putting something in there that you arent prepared to take out bare.

jeffs · 12-18-2008, 05:06 PM

I did try this specifically to see if it takes blueing off, and it really does take it all off!

Jeff

John Sabato · 08-28-2009, 11:46 AM

Just a note... I was notified by FNorm that the links and photos in this thread disappeared because of a reorganization of Frank Ford's website, but I have repaired the links and photos today so all should be able to visit this great site.

Enjoy

05-29-2008, 03:39 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Sure Fire Rust Removal! I like to share good news when I find it and today while browsing a machinist website I came across this method for the removal of rust from steel that is slicker than any other method I have ever seen. Here is the link on this amazing technique that takes nothing more than stuff you probably already have around your house: http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Qu...stremoval.html Here is how well it works as a preview: Before! After! For those gunsmiths and machinists whether professional or amateur, this website is a goldmine of interesting projects and ideas: http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/hstpages.html Enjoy! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-30-2008, 02:58 AM	#3
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Thank You John, it is a great site Alf __________________ I prefer a Luger

08-15-2008, 01:10 PM	#5
Zamo User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State Posts: 142 Thanks: 4 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Fantastic information. However, has anyone actually tried it on a "blued" pistol? Might this process possibly alter "rust blued" finishes? My concern is that it might produce more harm than good. __________________ <INSERT WITTY SAYING HERE> My collection: http://home.comcast.net/~gunspotz/guns.htm

08-15-2008, 01:16 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	NOT recommended on "rust blued" finishes on guns because the BLUE is actually a form of RUST... If anyone should intentionally use this process on a rust blued gun part, please post photos of the results here. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-28-2008, 12:47 PM	#8
flynt User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas-Ft. Worth Metroplex Posts: 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Any way to update this? HI, I tried to access the website link, and it appears to be removed -- and John's pictures don't work either. Maybe this could be updated. Thanks.

05-30-2008, 12:56 AM	#2
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	John I have never heard of using baking soda as the electrolyte, very interesting! thanks Vern

05-31-2008, 10:55 PM	#4
Ida-Alp Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nampa ID Posts: 116 Thanks: 81 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks a lot, john--That saves a lot of time, work and mess!! Al

08-22-2008, 07:20 PM	#7
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	John, This is a really neat web site. I book marked them for reference. I have used the rust removal technique to strip chromium plating off of brass. I used table salt for the electrolyte and a pot to hold the water and provide the positive pole. Thanks for the lead. Dick

09-28-2008, 03:22 PM	#9
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Me too.

09-28-2008, 03:59 PM	#10
A.Mifsin User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 570 Thanks: 74 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Try this it worked for me http://www.frets.com/HomeShopTech/Qu...stremoval.html Alf __________________ I prefer a Luger

09-29-2008, 09:41 AM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Sorry guys, Frank Ford recently reorganized his website structure and the link changed... Alf had the correct link above. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-12-2008, 09:25 PM	#12
loogee User Join Date: May 2008 Location: WI Posts: 84 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John.. Can't access the website re: rust removal...got any tricks for me ?? Thanx.

11-24-2008, 06:19 PM	#14
DonWallbaum User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Logan, OH USA Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	John; Have a WWII era Mauser HSc that I need to de-rust to get rid of some minor flecking. I had been looking at bonding with steel wool.. .but is the finish on the HSc suitable for this type of treatment? thx! Don

11-24-2008, 10:44 PM	#15
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Don, I am not sure what you mean by bonding with steel wool? please explain. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-25-2008, 10:32 AM	#16
DonWallbaum User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Logan, OH USA Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi John; Just mean that I was going to spend some quality time with steel wool on the Mauser. BUT, if electrolyic rust removal is more-better, I could go that route, but I don't know if that will also remove the current finish.

11-25-2008, 10:45 AM	#17
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I believe that the electrolytic rust removal described in this thread MAY also remove gun blue finish... the only way to know is to try it on something non critical. Perhaps someone else has already tried that and will post the results here. Blue is in fact a type of rust. FOUR ZERO "0000" steel wool and a good quality gun oil used very lightly will remove a small amount of surface rust without harming the overall finish... Some would recommend bronze wool... as it is less abrasive. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

11-27-2008, 10:42 AM	#18
Went Blakely User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	That's correct John, i've done some research and it will sure strip it back to bare without any hassles, if you want to reblue or resto a project or something, no problems, but don't go putting something in there that you arent prepared to take out bare. __________________ Went Blakely

12-18-2008, 05:06 PM	#19
jeffs User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I did try this specifically to see if it takes blueing off, and it really does take it all off! Jeff

08-28-2009, 11:46 AM	#20
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Just a note... I was notified by FNorm that the links and photos in this thread disappeared because of a reorganization of Frank Ford's website, but I have repaired the links and photos today so all should be able to visit this great site. Enjoy __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*