Luger 'parts' kit

BILL · 05-31-2001, 10:10 PM

Has anyone built a shooter Luger from parts..sort of from the gound up? If so, what are the pitfalls? I know it is probably cheaper to buy an already assembled shooter but any ideas of the expense? I know that people on eBay are 'parting out' imported shooters and realizing over 100% profit so bidding would be a poor choice for parts procurement. Any thoughts?

Thor · 05-31-2001, 10:21 PM

I have never done it, but considered it many times. you are right, they are cheaper when bought as a unit. But the thought of the "hunt" for a new part, spreading the cost out over many months, the excitement when the new part comes in, the assembly, watching that Baby grow! It could be read fun! Thor

BILL · 05-31-2001, 10:52 PM

I have been thinking of this ever since I saw a stripped frame for sale at a gun show years ago and a sign that read "$50, the perfect start for that shooter Luger". I wonder if the parts houses really have frames for sale?

HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr · 05-31-2001, 10:55 PM

I wouldent recomend it.

Here in Sweden is the "belgian rework" pretty common , wich is a mixed luger assembled in Belgium after the war and sold.

They can have mauser barrels on a krieghoff fork with DWM frame.

Those pistols is not very good guns, in fact they are often quite bad.

I think you better buy yourself a mauser and rebuild that to whatever you like, as I belive the mausers are better pistols than the earlyer production.

Regards HÃ?Â¥kan

http://www.vapensmedjan.com

BILL · 05-31-2001, 11:07 PM

You are correct, not all manufacturers are readily interchangeable. I suppose that if you had a whole warehouse full of parts (you reading this Tom?) you could find some good matches. As 'the gunsmith formerly known as Ted' says, the hunt for the parts would be fun.

HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr · 05-31-2001, 11:23 PM

Maybe, but I don't belive you can improve anything with doing so, it can't get better, only worse..........

But thats just my opinion.

Regards HÃ?Â¥kan

http://www.vapensmedjan.com

Marvin · 06-01-2001, 05:13 AM

Hakan,

You make some very good points in doing this "rebuild" from parts. Unless you are a competent gunsmith, I feel the end results would be a pistol that did not shoot good, and would give problems. If money is no problem and you want to do it for fun, go for it.

Marvin

06-01-2001, 07:16 AM

I believe that Sarco may still have some stripped frames available in poor or reblued condition in the $75 range. I also have several available from $50 for heavily buffed and reblued to $150 for excellent. Either one of us would need an FFL or FCL to ship a frame, stripped or otherwise. I'd also sell the bottom half (less mag & sideplate) of most of my advertised shooter in the classified for half of the total gun price. Since the parts for a luger retail for about twice the price of a shooter (why else would I be in this crazy business) I'd don't recommend builing one up a part at a time, unless you enjoy frustration. Most amatuer gunsmiths don't have the tools or experience to do it right. I've had to fix a lot of these later down the road.

Hugh · 06-01-2001, 08:08 AM

I presently have about six "parts kits" in my parts box! I have one 1906 gun that I have put together from parts, but have not had the chance to refinish it yet. I started accumulating parts several years ago with idea of making baby Lugers with them, and soon realized that it is cheaper to buy a "shooter" and convert than to buy all the parts necessary to build a complete gun. However it is possible if one has the desire and money. The only problem I have run into is that sometimes the reciever and frame, or the reciever and toggle assembly, will be too tight to mate properly. However this can be rectified by the application of a little fine valve grinding compound, and working the parts in.

Kyrie · 06-01-2001, 06:45 PM

Hi Folks!

This is something I'd recommend only to my worst enemy, or to someone who wants to discover just how large a vocabulary of swear words he possesses

Seriously, there was a lot of hand fitting that went into the final assembly of a Luger. Not only does a part have to fit were it goes, it has to interact correctly with all the surrounding parts. I only know of one fellow I'd trust to build a Luger out of randomly selected parts (Jim Oehlenschlager), and he's too smart to even try

Best regards,

Kyrie

Hugh · 06-01-2001, 11:12 PM

Ah gess this ol kuntry boy is jes dum enuf ta try enything

Kyrie · 06-02-2001, 06:14 AM

Good on ya! That'll keep you busy for a while

Best,

Kyrie

05-31-2001, 10:10 PM	#1
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger 'parts' kit Has anyone built a shooter Luger from parts..sort of from the gound up? If so, what are the pitfalls? I know it is probably cheaper to buy an already assembled shooter but any ideas of the expense? I know that people on eBay are 'parting out' imported shooters and realizing over 100% profit so bidding would be a poor choice for parts procurement. Any thoughts?

05-31-2001, 10:21 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit I have never done it, but considered it many times. you are right, they are cheaper when bought as a unit. But the thought of the "hunt" for a new part, spreading the cost out over many months, the excitement when the new part comes in, the assembly, watching that Baby grow! It could be read fun! Thor

05-31-2001, 10:52 PM	#3
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit I have been thinking of this ever since I saw a stripped frame for sale at a gun show years ago and a sign that read "$50, the perfect start for that shooter Luger". I wonder if the parts houses really have frames for sale?

05-31-2001, 10:55 PM	#4
HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit I wouldent recomend it. Here in Sweden is the "belgian rework" pretty common , wich is a mixed luger assembled in Belgium after the war and sold. They can have mauser barrels on a krieghoff fork with DWM frame. Those pistols is not very good guns, in fact they are often quite bad. I think you better buy yourself a mauser and rebuild that to whatever you like, as I belive the mausers are better pistols than the earlyer production. Regards HÃ?Â¥kan http://www.vapensmedjan.com

05-31-2001, 11:07 PM	#5
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit You are correct, not all manufacturers are readily interchangeable. I suppose that if you had a whole warehouse full of parts (you reading this Tom?) you could find some good matches. As 'the gunsmith formerly known as Ted' says, the hunt for the parts would be fun.

05-31-2001, 11:23 PM	#6
HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit Maybe, but I don't belive you can improve anything with doing so, it can't get better, only worse.......... But thats just my opinion. Regards HÃ?Â¥kan http://www.vapensmedjan.com

06-01-2001, 05:13 AM	#7
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit Hakan, You make some very good points in doing this "rebuild" from parts. Unless you are a competent gunsmith, I feel the end results would be a pistol that did not shoot good, and would give problems. If money is no problem and you want to do it for fun, go for it. Marvin

06-01-2001, 07:16 AM	#8
Tom h Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Luger 'parts' kit I believe that Sarco may still have some stripped frames available in poor or reblued condition in the $75 range. I also have several available from $50 for heavily buffed and reblued to $150 for excellent. Either one of us would need an FFL or FCL to ship a frame, stripped or otherwise. I'd also sell the bottom half (less mag & sideplate) of most of my advertised shooter in the classified for half of the total gun price. Since the parts for a luger retail for about twice the price of a shooter (why else would I be in this crazy business) I'd don't recommend builing one up a part at a time, unless you enjoy frustration. Most amatuer gunsmiths don't have the tools or experience to do it right. I've had to fix a lot of these later down the road.

06-01-2001, 08:08 AM	#9
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit I presently have about six "parts kits" in my parts box! I have one 1906 gun that I have put together from parts, but have not had the chance to refinish it yet. I started accumulating parts several years ago with idea of making baby Lugers with them, and soon realized that it is cheaper to buy a "shooter" and convert than to buy all the parts necessary to build a complete gun. However it is possible if one has the desire and money. The only problem I have run into is that sometimes the reciever and frame, or the reciever and toggle assembly, will be too tight to mate properly. However this can be rectified by the application of a little fine valve grinding compound, and working the parts in.

06-01-2001, 06:45 PM	#10
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Re: Luger 'parts' kit Hi Folks! This is something I'd recommend only to my worst enemy, or to someone who wants to discover just how large a vocabulary of swear words he possesses Seriously, there was a lot of hand fitting that went into the final assembly of a Luger. Not only does a part have to fit were it goes, it has to interact correctly with all the surrounding parts. I only know of one fellow I'd trust to build a Luger out of randomly selected parts (Jim Oehlenschlager), and he's too smart to even try Best regards, Kyrie

06-01-2001, 11:12 PM	#11
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Well Kyrie ..... Ah gess this ol kuntry boy is jes dum enuf ta try enything

06-02-2001, 06:14 AM	#12
Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	Hi Marvin! Good on ya! That'll keep you busy for a while Best, Kyrie