Need help identifying this one

Heartbar · 01-30-2011, 04:48 PM

Need some help... I have had several people look at this gun, and got several answers as to what it actually is. At first I thought it was a 1902, but some of the books say the serial number is to low (it is somewhere between 21000 and 22000). Which would seem to make it a 1900, (again there is a “but”) it has an 11 ¾ in barrel, and is 30 cal. and a forestock. Another observation that has been made is that it lacks many proof marking, which would indicate it is a commercial model....

More and full sized pictures are located at Luger Pics
I would really like to sell this gun, but don't feel I can until I have firmly determined what it is! I know it is rare... just can't quite figure out how rare.

Any help in further identifying this gun would be appreciated

Heartbar · 01-30-2011, 05:01 PM

Forgot to mention... the clip does not have a number on it, the rest of the gun seems to have all matching serial numbers or last two digits, and unfortunately, there is NOT a butt stock with it...

nukem556 · 01-30-2011, 05:47 PM

ummm, dude .....it's a 1902 Carbine and it's worth a bucket of money

Heartbar · 01-30-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nukem556

ummm, dude .....it's a 1902 Carbine and it's worth a bucket of money

That is what I thought, but the serial number, (as listed by the book in the local gun shop) doesn't seem to be right...

nukem556 · 01-30-2011, 06:20 PM

scroll down to the Archive section, then click on the subject "commercial database"...you'll find your serial number falls right in amongst the 1902 Carbines already accounted for...lucky guy...you just had this laying around?

Ron Wood · 01-30-2011, 06:42 PM

I gave you pretty much the same information (with a little more detail

) over on Jan Still's forum.

Heartbar · 01-30-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nukem556

scroll down to the Archive section, then click on the subject "commercial database"...you'll find your serial number falls right in amongst the 1902 Carbines already accounted for...lucky guy...you just had this laying around?

Thanks for pointing out that database... way more complete than anything else I have seen (and easy to figure out!)

This gun belonged to a widow friend of my wife and I. The woman had helped my wife and I out quite a bit (loaned us a truck and trailer to haul a couple of horses about 600 miles and didn't charge us a thing!, boarded some horses for us at a ridiculously low price...) Recent years things have got kind'a tight for her, so I figured I would repay here by not charging her when I came to work on her horses (I am a farrier (horse shoer for the city folks)) After I had been out to work for her several times she said she had a couple a guns she wanted to give me... not so much as payment, but she knew I was into guns and they had been sitting there since her husband had passed some twenty years back.

When I got this one home and started doing some research, I realized it to have quite a bit of value... called her and told her what I had found out and that I could not accept the gun... After discussing it with her we decide I would try to figure out exactly what it is, what it is worth and the best way to sell it for her (the gun will be sold for her, though I am sure she will kick me a few bucks)

Now I just need to figure out the BEST way to sell something of this value...

Heartbar · 01-30-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

I gave you pretty much the same information (with a little more detail

) over on Jan Still's forum.

Thanks Ron for answering on both sites!

sheepherder · 01-30-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Heartbar

Now I just need to figure out the BEST way to sell something of this value...

Before doing that, I would go back to her house and search it from attic to cellar...for the stock...

Heartbar · 01-30-2011, 07:36 PM

I have asked about it... she says she has never seen it... this gal reached down under a work bench, and pulled this gun out, wrapped up in a wool sock! If her hushband had had a stock for it, I am afraid it has been lost or destroyed...

nukem556 · 01-30-2011, 08:40 PM

Sorry for your friends loss, but this is a hopeful story for us Luger guys...there still are treasures out there to be found! There are several guys on here that are much more on the ball about values, but even without the stock,and if it's as nice as it looks I'd say its in the 8-10K range...you could put it on consignment with a big outfit like Simpson LTD or for auction on Gunbroker, etc. Hell, one of our more affluent members here might buy it!

Thor · 01-30-2011, 09:53 PM

WOW!

01-30-2011, 04:48 PM	#1
Heartbar User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need help identifying this one Need some help... I have had several people look at this gun, and got several answers as to what it actually is. At first I thought it was a 1902, but some of the books say the serial number is to low (it is somewhere between 21000 and 22000). Which would seem to make it a 1900, (again there is a “but”) it has an 11 ¾ in barrel, and is 30 cal. and a forestock. Another observation that has been made is that it lacks many proof marking, which would indicate it is a commercial model.... More and full sized pictures are located at Luger Pics I would really like to sell this gun, but don't feel I can until I have firmly determined what it is! I know it is rare... just can't quite figure out how rare. Any help in further identifying this gun would be appreciated Attached Thumbnails

01-30-2011, 06:42 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	I gave you pretty much the same information (with a little more detail ) over on Jan Still's forum. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-30-2011, 09:53 PM	#12
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	WOW! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-30-2011, 05:01 PM	#2
Heartbar User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Forgot to mention... the clip does not have a number on it, the rest of the gun seems to have all matching serial numbers or last two digits, and unfortunately, there is NOT a butt stock with it...

01-30-2011, 05:47 PM	#3
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	ummm, dude .....it's a 1902 Carbine and it's worth a bucket of money

01-30-2011, 06:20 PM	#5
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	scroll down to the Archive section, then click on the subject "commercial database"...you'll find your serial number falls right in amongst the 1902 Carbines already accounted for...lucky guy...you just had this laying around?

01-30-2011, 07:36 PM	#10
Heartbar User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have asked about it... she says she has never seen it... this gal reached down under a work bench, and pulled this gun out, wrapped up in a wool sock! If her hushband had had a stock for it, I am afraid it has been lost or destroyed...

01-30-2011, 08:40 PM	#11
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	Sorry for your friends loss, but this is a hopeful story for us Luger guys...there still are treasures out there to be found! There are several guys on here that are much more on the ball about values, but even without the stock,and if it's as nice as it looks I'd say its in the 8-10K range...you could put it on consignment with a big outfit like Simpson LTD or for auction on Gunbroker, etc. Hell, one of our more affluent members here might buy it!