Mauser Trademark Question

Yakman · 09-07-2020, 04:32 PM

A subtitle on page 596 of Sturgess says: "The Mauser Tonne (Barrel) Trademark". I cannot find that Tonne translates to Barrel in any reference, to include my native German, German speaking, wife. All translate Tonne to Ton, as a measure of weight.

A number of references, Sturgess and Hallock to name a couple, say the logo, as registered by Mauser in 1909 using the word Tonne, represents a barrel of gun powder and the vertical lines the staves. With that, "Mauser Barrel" would be the proper term for the logo, rather than "Mauser Banner".

Can anyone clear this Tonne, Barrel thing up for me?

Jack

Vlim · 09-07-2020, 04:37 PM

The logo was adapted by the Quandt group and the same style as the DWM, NWM, Comet logos in later years. You also see it in the IWK and IWKA logos up to some years ago.

The design may also be a reference to DWM's Berlin-Borsigwalde building design with its (then) innovative curved roof design.

The Mauser banner, however, was first registered in 1919, the DWM banner in 1936. These registrations can be found with the Deutsches Patent und Markenamt (DPMA).

There may have been earlier registrations as per Sturgess, but I haven't found evidence of a pre 1919 registration.

suum cuique · 09-08-2020, 12:34 PM

„Tonne“ or „Fass“ is a German word for barrel. Wassertonne / Wasserfass = Water Barrel. „Tonne“ is also ton (weight). Like „lead“ and „lead“. To lead / lead bullets. Same written word, different meaning. I guess Mauser Tonne is a nick name because it looks like a barrel / Tonne

suum cuique · 09-08-2020, 12:44 PM

See pic

Norme · 09-08-2020, 01:19 PM

Why not call it what it is, the Mauser logo?
Norm

Vlim · 09-08-2020, 01:44 PM

Early on, Mauser started using the 'Schützmarke' phrase with it's logo, showing that they had protected (registered) it.

09-07-2020, 04:32 PM	#1
Yakman User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 119 Thanks: 881 Thanked 81 Times in 40 Posts	Mauser Trademark Question A subtitle on page 596 of Sturgess says: "The Mauser Tonne (Barrel) Trademark". I cannot find that Tonne translates to Barrel in any reference, to include my native German, German speaking, wife. All translate Tonne to Ton, as a measure of weight. A number of references, Sturgess and Hallock to name a couple, say the logo, as registered by Mauser in 1909 using the word Tonne, represents a barrel of gun powder and the vertical lines the staves. With that, "Mauser Barrel" would be the proper term for the logo, rather than "Mauser Banner". Can anyone clear this Tonne, Barrel thing up for me? Jack

09-07-2020, 04:37 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	The logo was adapted by the Quandt group and the same style as the DWM, NWM, Comet logos in later years. You also see it in the IWK and IWKA logos up to some years ago. The design may also be a reference to DWM's Berlin-Borsigwalde building design with its (then) innovative curved roof design. The Mauser banner, however, was first registered in 1919, the DWM banner in 1936. These registrations can be found with the Deutsches Patent und Markenamt (DPMA). There may have been earlier registrations as per Sturgess, but I haven't found evidence of a pre 1919 registration. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

09-08-2020, 12:34 PM	#3
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	„Tonne“ or „Fass“ is a German word for barrel. Wassertonne / Wasserfass = Water Barrel. „Tonne“ is also ton (weight). Like „lead“ and „lead“. To lead / lead bullets. Same written word, different meaning. I guess Mauser Tonne is a nick name because it looks like a barrel / Tonne __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

09-08-2020, 12:44 PM	#4
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 100 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	See pic Attached Thumbnails __________________ Regards, Andy There's No Place Like Home (Wizard Of Oz)

09-08-2020, 01:19 PM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Why not call it what it is, the Mauser logo? Norm

09-08-2020, 01:44 PM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Early on, Mauser started using the 'Schützmarke' phrase with it's logo, showing that they had protected (registered) it.