Help with C96 Harness

Douglas Jr. · 04-23-2014, 10:29 AM

Hi,
I'm far for being an expert on leather gear, so I would like to hear your opinions about this C96 harness. Unfortunately these are the only pictures I have so far.

Thanks in advance for you assistance.

Douglas

lugerholsterrepair · 04-23-2014, 01:03 PM

Douglas, looks good to me..

alanint · 04-23-2014, 02:09 PM

I agree with Jerry. It looks correct and complete.

Douglas Jr. · 04-23-2014, 03:20 PM

Good news indeed. Thanks again!
Another question: what is the meaning of the stamp "BAXII16" ??
Is it a depot code?

LU1900 · 04-24-2014, 02:30 AM

Yes , XXII Office Clothing code , and 16 for the year I think
Many repros for this item , but this one is legit for me too

klaus 3338 · 04-24-2014, 02:53 AM

I have never seen before a C96 leather made in Saxon.
Thanks for sharing.

alanint · 04-24-2014, 07:57 AM

Pick up a spare magazine spring for the front pouch. This will help keep its shape.

sheepherder · 05-02-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

Pick up a spare magazine spring for the front pouch. This will help keep its shape.

...Or at least a piece of wood (or something)...

Jerry will happily disagree, but I would rub some NeatsFoot Oil into that pouch and let it absorb for a couple days before putting a spring/block in it...To avoid cracking...

lugerholsterrepair · 05-02-2014, 04:51 PM

I give up. I officially surrender, yes! Neatsfoot OIL! That's the magic elixr. The stuff designed to BREAK DOWN leather fibers and make stiff leather shoe soles soft as rubber. Floppy as a cooked noodle. Good for what ails ya. Get yer bottle here! One thin dime! Well..it might work as well as anything. What do I know? Pour it full, jump & shout! Pour it full, rub it all about, pour it full..pour it out..
Neatsfoot OIL, that's what it's all about!! Sometimes I think pounding my head against a wall is affecting my sanity.

sheepherder · 05-02-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Neatsfoot OIL, that's what it's all about!!

Sometimes I use Vaseline...

lugerholsterrepair · 05-02-2014, 06:42 PM

OMG! I'm falling over the edge...

sheepherder · 05-02-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Sometimes I think pounding my head against a wall is affecting my sanity.

You've taken up a new hobby!!! Splendid!!!

Do you have any pictures???

Grantas · 05-03-2014, 01:18 AM

Sheepherder, I thought you would have favoured Lanolin .

sheepherder · 05-03-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Grantas

Sheepherder, I thought you would have favoured Lanolin .

OMG!!! That is so completely true!!!

I couldn't remember what Jerry recommended, so I took a WAG...Sorry Douglas!

Grantas · 05-05-2014, 02:13 AM

I found this reference, should allow one to get into plenty of trouble if you don't know what you're doing but still interesting to be aware of.
http://nautarch.tamu.edu/CRL/conserv...nual/File7.htm

Douglas Jr. · 05-05-2014, 01:59 PM

Thank you folks once more for all the feedback and tips.
And how to make Jerry go nuts!

sheepherder · 05-05-2014, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Jr.

Thank you folks once more for all the feedback and tips.
And how to make Jerry go nuts!

I would have sworn that Jerry recommended Neatsfoot Oil...I even bought a bottle of 'Lincoln Prime Neatsfoot Oil Compound'; it's sitting on a shelf behind me, unused. I'm not into holsters; I think I got it for my baseball glove, and I thought Jerry had said that was the ticket. I was wrong.

Maybe Jerry could point us to his preferred leather preservative???

(When I was a kid, we really did rub Vasoline in our baseball gloves...)

Vlim · 05-06-2014, 08:33 AM

The best leather preservative is no preservative.

That said: Connolly's Hide Food is good.
Renaissance wax is a museum quality preservative.

Olle · 05-06-2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlim

The best leather preservative is no preservative.

This is something you hear a lot, and I don't doubt that many "preservatives" or "reconditioners" can damage the leather. I guess no one can predict the long term effects of all the modern ointments, but what do one do when a holster is so stiff and cracked that it threatens to fall apart if you don't do anything?

It seems to me that the safest bet would be to use whatever they used back in the days, these holsters are around 100 years old so the long term effects are obviously not detrimental. Does anybody know?

Vlim · 05-07-2014, 05:58 AM

Many of those old holsters did not survive in good condition. I think the best survivors are those that were stored in a normal environment and were untouched for many years.

04-23-2014, 10:29 AM	#1
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Help with C96 Harness Hi, I'm far for being an expert on leather gear, so I would like to hear your opinions about this C96 harness. Unfortunately these are the only pictures I have so far. Thanks in advance for you assistance. Douglas Attached Thumbnails

04-23-2014, 01:03 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Douglas, looks good to me.. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 41 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Yes , XXII Office Clothing code , and 16 for the year I think Many repros for this item , but this one is legit for me too __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

05-02-2014, 04:51 PM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I give up. I officially surrender, yes! Neatsfoot OIL! That's the magic elixr. The stuff designed to BREAK DOWN leather fibers and make stiff leather shoe soles soft as rubber. Floppy as a cooked noodle. Good for what ails ya. Get yer bottle here! One thin dime! Well..it might work as well as anything. What do I know? Pour it full, jump & shout! Pour it full, rub it all about, pour it full..pour it out.. Neatsfoot OIL, that's what it's all about!! Sometimes I think pounding my head against a wall is affecting my sanity. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-02-2014, 06:42 PM	#11
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	OMG! I'm falling over the edge... __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-23-2014, 02:09 PM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I agree with Jerry. It looks correct and complete.

04-23-2014, 03:20 PM	#4
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Good news indeed. Thanks again! Another question: what is the meaning of the stamp "BAXII16" ?? Is it a depot code?

04-24-2014, 02:53 AM	#6
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	I have never seen before a C96 leather made in Saxon. Thanks for sharing.

04-24-2014, 07:57 AM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Pick up a spare magazine spring for the front pouch. This will help keep its shape.

05-03-2014, 01:18 AM	#13
Grantas Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 55 Thanks: 274 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	Sheepherder, I thought you would have favoured Lanolin . __________________ LOOKING for Erfurt Takedown lever and sideplate number 44 also DWM Magazine 2823a

05-05-2014, 02:13 AM	#15
Grantas Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: New Zealand Posts: 55 Thanks: 274 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	I found this reference, should allow one to get into plenty of trouble if you don't know what you're doing but still interesting to be aware of. http://nautarch.tamu.edu/CRL/conserv...nual/File7.htm __________________ LOOKING for Erfurt Takedown lever and sideplate number 44 also DWM Magazine 2823a

05-05-2014, 01:59 PM	#16
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Thank you folks once more for all the feedback and tips. And how to make Jerry go nuts!

05-06-2014, 08:33 AM	#18
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	The best leather preservative is no preservative. That said: Connolly's Hide Food is good. Renaissance wax is a museum quality preservative.

05-07-2014, 05:58 AM	#20
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Many of those old holsters did not survive in good condition. I think the best survivors are those that were stored in a normal environment and were untouched for many years.