Fake Navy Mag on Ebay

Norme · 02-06-2023, 10:15 AM

Here's a classic fake Navy magazine on Ebay. What makes me so sure? eBay item number:144932094505
Norm

Roadster 02 · 02-06-2023, 10:50 AM

Deep fake naval stamp?

lugerholsterrepair · 02-06-2023, 10:53 AM

NONE of the stamps are anywhere near close..The serial has a suffix! The whole thing is clownish and the seller is the clown ringmaster. NEVER buy anything from this guy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14493209450...Bk9SR_60ovPEYQ

jeb111 · 02-06-2023, 07:52 PM

My first glance and I thought the stamps were a big red flag and then saw the seller and recognized the name from this forum as one to stay away from.
Jim

gunnertwo · 02-06-2023, 11:11 PM

The seller is a cancer to the collecting community.

G2

Yakman · 03-08-2023, 03:39 PM

The guy has 7735 transactions and a 99.7% positive rating. Looks to me like you detractors are the negative .3%. That's .3 of one percent, hardly a consensus. I've had two transactions with this guy over the last few years with no problems, but with a 99.7% favorable rating I wouldn't expect any either.

I do think it's fair to criticize the magazine, though.

Jack

gunnertwo · 03-08-2023, 03:56 PM

If the seller sells boosted items and the buyers don't recognize the fraud- it's still fraud.

G2

Yakman · 03-08-2023, 04:27 PM

G2, I don't disagree with you. I agree the serial number and suffix bottom of the mag is a deliberate attempt to boost this mag. The number is offset a little high to make room for the suffix, which shouldn't even be there, but there is no reason to think the seller did it or had anything to do with it given his record. The seller has a very good name to protect so I would give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it is just something that slipped past him.

Before I would openly bad-mouth him I would contact him and get his side.

Jack

Roadster 02 · 03-08-2023, 04:43 PM

Guy sells faked items, and when I questioned him about it, he banned me from bidding on his items on Ebay. That tells me all I want to know. When you ban someone on any forum, selling site, etc. for asking questions, it's bogus.

gunnertwo · 03-08-2023, 04:55 PM

Jack,

The seller has a long history of fraudulent items. That he may have a legitimate item from time to time makes no difference. He hurts the collecting community and new collectors by selling fakes. Several members here have given their advice. They will not do business with him. Ultimately we are trying to look out for your best interests and your wallet. I'm saying this with respect for your opinion.

G2

Norme · 03-08-2023, 07:18 PM

I personally have never done business with this seller, as far as I know he is a scholar and a gentleman. However while the seller may be righteous, the magazine is certainly not. The C/M is inverted!
Norm

Yakman · 03-08-2023, 07:26 PM

Roadster 02, glad you chimed in. Your firsthand experience is enough to change my opinion. I wouldn't give someone like that the time of day. That reflects poorly on eBay.

Jack

Roadster 02 · 03-08-2023, 09:42 PM

I actually bought a Luger item from him, and then when I realized it was not correct, I had to try to get reimbursed and it all just went south. Oh well, live and learn.

gunnertwo · 03-08-2023, 11:30 PM

Tom,

If bought on eBay, use their return policy. Make a "stink" about it.

G2

Roadster 02 · 03-09-2023, 12:06 AM

Thanks, but it happened awhile back. Just another lesson learned in the pursuit of Lugers, and collecting in general. Unfortunately, every collecting hobby has it's share of scammers.

Mckenzie · 03-22-2023, 08:21 PM

This guy has been around for thirty plus years. Once was big in fake navy lugers. Sells enough legit stuff to look legit. Also sells boosted parts and magazines that only and expert can tell what's real and what's boosted. Made a lot of money off new and some experienced collectors. john

02-06-2023, 10:15 AM	#1
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Fake Navy Mag on Ebay Here's a classic fake Navy magazine on Ebay. What makes me so sure? eBay item number:144932094505 Norm

02-06-2023, 10:53 AM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	NONE of the stamps are anywhere near close..The serial has a suffix! The whole thing is clownish and the seller is the clown ringmaster. NEVER buy anything from this guy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/14493209450...Bk9SR_60ovPEYQ __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-08-2023, 04:43 PM	#9
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 313 Thanks: 173 Thanked 252 Times in 87 Posts	Guy sells faked items, and when I questioned him about it, he banned me from bidding on his items on Ebay. That tells me all I want to know. When you ban someone on any forum, selling site, etc. for asking questions, it's bogus. Last edited by Roadster 02; 03-08-2023 at 09:39 PM.

03-08-2023, 07:18 PM	#11
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	I personally have never done business with this seller, as far as I know he is a scholar and a gentleman. However while the seller may be righteous, the magazine is certainly not. The C/M is inverted! Norm Attached Thumbnails

02-06-2023, 10:50 AM	#2
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 313 Thanks: 173 Thanked 252 Times in 87 Posts	Deep fake naval stamp?

02-06-2023, 07:52 PM	#4
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 712 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	My first glance and I thought the stamps were a big red flag and then saw the seller and recognized the name from this forum as one to stay away from. Jim

02-06-2023, 11:11 PM	#5
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	The seller is a cancer to the collecting community. G2

03-08-2023, 03:39 PM	#6
Yakman User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 119 Thanks: 881 Thanked 81 Times in 40 Posts	The guy has 7735 transactions and a 99.7% positive rating. Looks to me like you detractors are the negative .3%. That's .3 of one percent, hardly a consensus. I've had two transactions with this guy over the last few years with no problems, but with a 99.7% favorable rating I wouldn't expect any either. I do think it's fair to criticize the magazine, though. Jack

03-08-2023, 03:56 PM	#7
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	If the seller sells boosted items and the buyers don't recognize the fraud- it's still fraud. G2

03-08-2023, 04:27 PM	#8
Yakman User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 119 Thanks: 881 Thanked 81 Times in 40 Posts	G2, I don't disagree with you. I agree the serial number and suffix bottom of the mag is a deliberate attempt to boost this mag. The number is offset a little high to make room for the suffix, which shouldn't even be there, but there is no reason to think the seller did it or had anything to do with it given his record. The seller has a very good name to protect so I would give him the benefit of the doubt and hope it is just something that slipped past him. Before I would openly bad-mouth him I would contact him and get his side. Jack

03-08-2023, 04:55 PM	#10
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Jack, The seller has a long history of fraudulent items. That he may have a legitimate item from time to time makes no difference. He hurts the collecting community and new collectors by selling fakes. Several members here have given their advice. They will not do business with him. Ultimately we are trying to look out for your best interests and your wallet. I'm saying this with respect for your opinion. G2

03-08-2023, 07:26 PM	#12
Yakman User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Indiana Posts: 119 Thanks: 881 Thanked 81 Times in 40 Posts	Roadster 02, glad you chimed in. Your firsthand experience is enough to change my opinion. I wouldn't give someone like that the time of day. That reflects poorly on eBay. Jack

03-08-2023, 09:42 PM	#13
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 313 Thanks: 173 Thanked 252 Times in 87 Posts	I actually bought a Luger item from him, and then when I realized it was not correct, I had to try to get reimbursed and it all just went south. Oh well, live and learn.

03-08-2023, 11:30 PM	#14
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 623 Thanks: 826 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Tom, If bought on eBay, use their return policy. Make a "stink" about it. G2

03-09-2023, 12:06 AM	#15
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 313 Thanks: 173 Thanked 252 Times in 87 Posts	Thanks, but it happened awhile back. Just another lesson learned in the pursuit of Lugers, and collecting in general. Unfortunately, every collecting hobby has it's share of scammers.

03-22-2023, 08:21 PM	#16
Mckenzie Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 30 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	This guy has been around for thirty plus years. Once was big in fake navy lugers. Sells enough legit stuff to look legit. Also sells boosted parts and magazines that only and expert can tell what's real and what's boosted. Made a lot of money off new and some experienced collectors. john