1908 ??

idler · 06-22-2017, 05:35 PM

Sn, 40697 rt. side not marked l. side of rec. marked crown over B and crown over U sideways. It has hold open but no proof mark like when added later. Bug under bbl. with sn. and 118.35. 40697 on receiver front and under bbl. not marked Germany, sn. on all parts but safety, firing pin or extractor. No sn. inside of grips, hole in receiver near trigger for mag. safety but no mag. safety. fireing pin is fluted with tool marks inside of grove, not smooth like my other lugers. It also has a sear safety.
blueing is very good and bbl is lightly pitted.
I think it is a 1908 commercial with sear safety and mag safety added later.

Thank you

Bill E.

spacecoast · 06-22-2017, 05:52 PM

In that serial range, it could be. Pictures would help.

idler · 06-22-2017, 06:11 PM

How do I post pictures? I have posted pictures on GUn broker in the past > is it a similar process?

ithacaartist · 06-22-2017, 08:42 PM

When you want to post with pics, scroll down and click "go advanced" Scroll down on that page and click on "manage attachments" browse to select, then click upload and be patient.

idler · 06-23-2017, 11:28 AM

photos 1908?

idler · 06-23-2017, 11:30 AM

last photo

idler · 06-23-2017, 11:32 AM

Thank you now I know how to add photos.
Very simple!

spacecoast · 06-23-2017, 12:02 PM

Appears to be a 1908 Commercial as you surmised. Does the side plate have a number on the lower surface or is it a replacement?

idler · 06-23-2017, 12:17 PM

# 97 on bottom

idler · 06-23-2017, 12:19 PM

I bought it as a shooter and paid a shooter price!

alanint · 06-25-2017, 07:20 AM

Your pistol has a police Sear Safety! Also, it looks like the hold open was added in the photos, but the usual proof that accompanies the feature is not visible.

Does the pistol have a hold open and is there a tiny proof above and to the left of the trigger pivot pin on the right side of the pistol?

idler · 06-25-2017, 08:20 AM

Hi
It does have a hold open and there is no proof mark.

kurusu · 06-25-2017, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

Your pistol has a police Sear Safety! Also, it looks like the hold open was added in the photoss, but the usual proof that accompanies the feature is not visible.

Does the pistol have a hold open and is there a tiny proof above and to the left of the trigger pivot pin on the right side of the pistol?

The bluing in that area seems to have been retouched, maybe that's why the proof mark isn't visible.

idler · 06-25-2017, 02:06 PM

Brite lite and a magnifying glass show absolutely no proof mark.

DonVoigt · 06-25-2017, 03:42 PM

From 1908 to police service and later- it was likely refinished once and maybe twice, so a light strike Erfurt mark could likely have been lost in the process.

The hold open was definitely added after the factory, as evidenced by the rough visible pin.

Dwight Gruber · 06-25-2017, 08:19 PM

c/B,U,G proofed commercial pistols appropriated for police use are very uncommon. It is interesting that sn 40666 is also a police pistol.

--Dwight

idler · 06-25-2017, 08:28 PM

Thank you,
A lite shined at an acute angle shows no proof mark, and the inside is not blued like a dipped hot blue job>

idler · 06-25-2017, 08:30 PM

I mean the inside of the grip frame is in the white.

06-22-2017, 05:35 PM	#1
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908 ?? Sn, 40697 rt. side not marked l. side of rec. marked crown over B and crown over U sideways. It has hold open but no proof mark like when added later. Bug under bbl. with sn. and 118.35. 40697 on receiver front and under bbl. not marked Germany, sn. on all parts but safety, firing pin or extractor. No sn. inside of grips, hole in receiver near trigger for mag. safety but no mag. safety. fireing pin is fluted with tool marks inside of grove, not smooth like my other lugers. It also has a sear safety. blueing is very good and bbl is lightly pitted. I think it is a 1908 commercial with sear safety and mag safety added later. Thank you Bill E.

06-22-2017, 05:52 PM	#2
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	In that serial range, it could be. Pictures would help. __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95

06-22-2017, 06:11 PM	#3
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? How do I post pictures? I have posted pictures on GUn broker in the past > is it a similar process?

06-22-2017, 08:42 PM	#4
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	When you want to post with pics, scroll down and click "go advanced" Scroll down on that page and click on "manage attachments" browse to select, then click upload and be patient. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-23-2017, 11:28 AM	#5
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? photos 1908? Attached Thumbnails

06-23-2017, 11:30 AM	#6
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? last photo Attached Thumbnails

06-23-2017, 11:32 AM	#7
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? Thank you now I know how to add photos. Very simple!

06-23-2017, 12:02 PM	#8
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	Appears to be a 1908 Commercial as you surmised. Does the side plate have a number on the lower surface or is it a replacement? __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95

06-23-2017, 12:17 PM	#9
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? # 97 on bottom

06-23-2017, 12:19 PM	#10
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? I bought it as a shooter and paid a shooter price!

06-25-2017, 07:20 AM	#11
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Your pistol has a police Sear Safety! Also, it looks like the hold open was added in the photos, but the usual proof that accompanies the feature is not visible. Does the pistol have a hold open and is there a tiny proof above and to the left of the trigger pivot pin on the right side of the pistol?

06-25-2017, 08:20 AM	#12
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? Hi It does have a hold open and there is no proof mark.

06-25-2017, 02:06 PM	#14
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? Brite lite and a magnifying glass show absolutely no proof mark.

06-25-2017, 03:42 PM	#15
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	From 1908 to police service and later- it was likely refinished once and maybe twice, so a light strike Erfurt mark could likely have been lost in the process. The hold open was definitely added after the factory, as evidenced by the rough visible pin. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

06-25-2017, 08:19 PM	#16
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,313 Times in 430 Posts	c/B,U,G proofed commercial pistols appropriated for police use are very uncommon. It is interesting that sn 40666 is also a police pistol. --Dwight

06-25-2017, 08:28 PM	#17
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? Thank you, A lite shined at an acute angle shows no proof mark, and the inside is not blued like a dipped hot blue job>

06-25-2017, 08:30 PM	#18
idler User Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	1908? I mean the inside of the grip frame is in the white.