At least this one is real

Vlim · 05-17-2009, 02:11 PM

Salvaged from a German uboat (UB61), which sunk in 1917 before the Dutch coast at Terschelling.
Don't know where it is today, I'm trying to find out more about it.

http://www.duikteamzeester.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161

(ps: it's not mine, just found a reference to it on a Dutch site)

GerColctor · 05-17-2009, 02:17 PM

Quite a few of the Navy 1906 models ended up on the bottom of the ocean. Nice to see one that finally made it back.

Joe

Vlim · 05-17-2009, 02:20 PM

That's how the Dutch navy got their first Lugers. Taken from U-Boats stranded at Dutch beaches during WW1.

AGE · 05-18-2009, 12:48 AM

Thor could restore this one.

Sieger · 05-18-2009, 02:32 AM

Vlim:

It looks like a P-38 I once owned.

Sieger

Edward Tinker · 05-18-2009, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGE

Thor could restore this one.

I think he'd turn it down

I had a banner that was probably pristine before the owner left it in his pickup for 20 years ratteling around. Ted took one look and said, "Ed, it'll always look beat up". In other words, he'd have to have welding, drawing and finsihing for a gun that would cost more than it would be worth....

Maybe for a 1904 Navy it would be worth it

Ed

lugerholsterrepair · 05-18-2009, 12:02 PM

I wouldn't want it..The top is missing off the holster!

Actually it's amazing the thing looks as good as it does, a German Submarine interior is a pretty caustic brew of chemicals.

Jerry Burney

Ron Smith · 05-18-2009, 12:27 PM

Geez Gerben! You really should clean your guns once in a while. And never store them in the holster!!

G.T. · 05-18-2009, 02:09 PM

Maybe it's an 04??

best to all, til..lat'r....GT

Big Norm · 05-20-2009, 02:36 AM

I wonder if the magazine is any good? Well, maybe not. The spring and the pin would probably be gone.
Big Norm

sheepherder · 05-20-2009, 06:07 PM

A treasure like that deserves a suitable display...

Went Blakely · 05-23-2009, 11:08 AM

Interesting piece, i'd be happy to own it. hehe

Douglas Jr. · 05-25-2009, 09:36 AM

Very interesting. Thanks for showing for us.
Douglas

alvin · 05-25-2009, 10:27 AM

Wow!! Just see this one. An excellent example of "Dutch Lugers usually come with rust"

Vlim · 07-12-2009, 08:52 PM

A follow-up. I had the opportunity to study another navy holster/stock combination that made it back to the surface. Sadly the guns (yes, guns) had rusted away completely, so did the loading tools (just a heap of rusty residue in the pocket) and the cleaning rods. The leather itself was in a relatively good condition and the wood stock was still looking nice, although the attaching iron and the ID disk had rotted off. The crown/M was clearly visible.

The stocked holster was complete with it's carrying loops and the back plate of a magazine pouch. It came from a wooden crate that had 8 or 10 navy rigs in it, all in a similar state (iron parts gone, leather, wood and brass ok). One of the stocked holsters is now on display at a Dutch shipwreck museum.

Madcow · 02-17-2010, 09:06 PM

Since we are on the subject of submarines, I was in my mom's hometown of Derry Northern Ireland this summer and heard an obsure story of 19 German subs that showed up there at the end of WWII. Shortly there-after Royal navy then took them out to the harbor and sunk them where they still lie today. There are plans underway to raise one of them. I don't know if anyone else finds this interesting, but as a wreck diver I thought this was very cool, and share this bit of history with anyone ho may care.
Here is a related story.
http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/...oat.4324229.jp
My uncle took some pictures as a kid. If I can I will get scaned copies to post. When he told this story he said the subs where lined up in the harbor like stacks of firewood.
Would be cool to see what kind of weaponry could be recoverd from this site.

tenbears · 02-17-2010, 11:39 PM

Nice to see the word Derry and not Londonderry.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-18-2010, 12:30 AM

Jim, Surely they would not have scuttled the subs with weaponry such as pistols aboard?

Jerry Burney

Madcow · 02-19-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Jim, Surely they would not have scuttled the subs with weaponry such as pistols aboard?

Jerry Burney

I would not we suprised. I think we have all seen pictures of discarded weaponry.

Madcow · 02-19-2010, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenbears

Nice to see the word Derry and not Londonderry.

Too much history in my family to use that term. I went there every summer when I was a kid in the late 60s and early 70s. saw some pretty hairy stuff back then, but that is for another forum.

05-17-2009, 02:11 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	At least this one is real Salvaged from a German uboat (UB61), which sunk in 1917 before the Dutch coast at Terschelling. Don't know where it is today, I'm trying to find out more about it. http://www.duikteamzeester.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161 (ps: it's not mine, just found a reference to it on a Dutch site) Attached Thumbnails

05-17-2009, 02:17 PM	#2
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 312 Thanks: 2 Thanked 45 Times in 29 Posts	Quite a few of the Navy 1906 models ended up on the bottom of the ocean. Nice to see one that finally made it back. Joe __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

05-18-2009, 12:48 AM	#4
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thor could restore this one. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member

05-18-2009, 12:02 PM	#7
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	I wouldn't want it..The top is missing off the holster! Actually it's amazing the thing looks as good as it does, a German Submarine interior is a pretty caustic brew of chemicals. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-18-2009, 12:27 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Geez Gerben! You really should clean your guns once in a while. And never store them in the holster!! __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-17-2009, 02:20 PM	#3
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	That's how the Dutch navy got their first Lugers. Taken from U-Boats stranded at Dutch beaches during WW1.

05-18-2009, 02:32 AM	#5
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,575 Thanks: 2,124 Thanked 400 Times in 249 Posts	Vlim: It looks like a P-38 I once owned. Sieger

05-18-2009, 02:09 PM	#9
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05-20-2009, 02:36 AM	#10
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I wonder if the magazine is any good? Well, maybe not. The spring and the pin would probably be gone. Big Norm

05-20-2009, 06:07 PM	#11
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	A treasure like that deserves a suitable display... Attached Thumbnails

05-23-2009, 11:08 AM	#12
Went Blakely User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Interesting piece, i'd be happy to own it. hehe __________________ Went Blakely

05-25-2009, 09:36 AM	#13
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Very interesting. Thanks for showing for us. Douglas

05-25-2009, 10:27 AM	#14
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Wow!! Just see this one. An excellent example of "Dutch Lugers usually come with rust"

07-12-2009, 08:52 PM	#15
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	A follow-up. I had the opportunity to study another navy holster/stock combination that made it back to the surface. Sadly the guns (yes, guns) had rusted away completely, so did the loading tools (just a heap of rusty residue in the pocket) and the cleaning rods. The leather itself was in a relatively good condition and the wood stock was still looking nice, although the attaching iron and the ID disk had rotted off. The crown/M was clearly visible. The stocked holster was complete with it's carrying loops and the back plate of a magazine pouch. It came from a wooden crate that had 8 or 10 navy rigs in it, all in a similar state (iron parts gone, leather, wood and brass ok). One of the stocked holsters is now on display at a Dutch shipwreck museum.

02-17-2010, 09:06 PM	#16
Madcow User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 53 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Since we are on the subject of submarines, I was in my mom's hometown of Derry Northern Ireland this summer and heard an obsure story of 19 German subs that showed up there at the end of WWII. Shortly there-after Royal navy then took them out to the harbor and sunk them where they still lie today. There are plans underway to raise one of them. I don't know if anyone else finds this interesting, but as a wreck diver I thought this was very cool, and share this bit of history with anyone ho may care. Here is a related story. http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/...oat.4324229.jp My uncle took some pictures as a kid. If I can I will get scaned copies to post. When he told this story he said the subs where lined up in the harbor like stacks of firewood. Would be cool to see what kind of weaponry could be recoverd from this site. __________________ Don't take life too seriously, because your not going to make it out alive.

02-17-2010, 11:39 PM	#17
tenbears User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 370 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts	Nice to see the word Derry and not Londonderry.

02-18-2010, 12:30 AM	#18
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,931 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jim, Surely they would not have scuttled the subs with weaponry such as pistols aboard? Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."