Front Sight Adjustment Tools

regul · 06-19-2016, 08:46 PM

These are three P.08 sight adjust tools I have collected over the years.
Ed

Eugen · 06-19-2016, 09:32 PM

Very nice collection of those tools. I trust they are fairly rare.

DonVoigt · 06-19-2016, 10:36 PM

Nice , any markings? other than the P 08 seen in the picture.

regul · 06-19-2016, 11:16 PM

Yes, the left one has a very small Swiss Cross on on top near the blade pusher. I will try and get a photo of it tomorrow if I have time after work. The right one is unmarked and fits the slim taper barrels. ie. GRN & M2
I will also try and show the fit of each around the pistol barrel bands.
Thanks
Ed

jussi16 · 06-21-2016, 08:06 AM

This is a little different.

Eugen · 06-21-2016, 08:48 AM

Gosh, fine tools like that take all the excitement (read: cussing and spitting) out of pushing sights.

kurusu · 06-21-2016, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jussi16

This is a little different.

Does the M23 tool also fit the 9mm Lugers?

ithacaartist · 06-21-2016, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurusu

Does the M23 tool also fit the 9mm Lugers?

Each tool is specific to a style of barrel band and sight block. A tool for the pencil tapered 7.65 mm barrels would not admit a larger barrel band from a P.08.

jussi16 · 06-22-2016, 04:02 AM

The M23 tool is good for Tikkakoski 9 mm barrels (see avatar). I have not tried it to other models.

kurusu · 06-22-2016, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Each tool is specific to a style of barrel band and sight block. A tool for the pencil tapered 7.65 mm barrels would not admit a larger barrel band from a P.08.

I know. What I don't know is how different the barrel band of the M23 is from the one of a standard P.08.

sheepherder · 06-22-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kurusu

I know. What I don't know is how different the barrel band of the M23 is from the one of a standard P.08.

Mario - I commend you on your restraint!

I have a 9mm x 120mm Tikkakoski [don't call it a 'Tikka'!] Luger barrel in front of me, with the 'square' sight blade. The front band measures .5990" or 15.22mm perpendicular to the blade. Vernier measurement, and the band tapers slightly so that is an aggregate measurement.

kurusu · 06-22-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder

Mario - I commend you on your restraint!

I have a 9mm x 120mm Tikkakoski [don't call it a 'Tikka'!] Luger barrel in front of me, with the 'square' sight blade. The front band measures .5990" or 15.22mm perpendicular to the blade. Vernier measurement, and the band tapers slightly so that is an aggregate measurement.

Interesting. I just measured my 2 Mauser P.08. .587 and .586. The inside of my P.08 sight pusher is .590.

Can I bother you to measure from the bottom of the barrel band to the beginning of the sight dovetail? In the P.08 it's around .611(hard to measure

).

The tool measures .618 from the bottom of the hole to the base of the pusher.

John Sabato · 06-22-2016, 02:53 PM

All, the front sight band and dovetail notch dimensions are clearly dimensioned on the P.08 blueprints.

The measurement from the bottom of the barrel band is 17.5mm to the top of the front sight ramp, and the notch is 1.6mm deep. The top of the dovetail notch is 4.2mm front to back and the bottom of the dovetail is 5.4mm.

I suggest you buy a copy of the blueprints (shameless plug) and they will come in handy for discussions and projects like this one.

You can PM me for purchase instructions or see the Blueprint CD thread in the FOR SALE forum.

Here is an extract of the barrel blueprint as an example

kurusu · 06-22-2016, 03:14 PM

I was trying to get the measures from the non standard 9mm Tikkakoski barrel band. To find out if the Finnish M23 tool could be used in a standard P.08.

Jussi16 post got me curious.

I already know the P.08 tool can only be used in a P.08.

regul · 06-22-2016, 03:59 PM

John Sabato
I just wanted to say thank you. It was your idea in a recent post you made to to get a sight adjustment tool thread started.
Again Thanks
Ed Roane

jussi16 · 06-29-2016, 07:41 AM

I will measure the barrel I told about, but I am on a holiday right now. I will get back home maybe in three or four weeks.

jussi16 · 09-20-2017, 04:33 AM

This fits in very nice to my M23 tool. Tikkakoski barrel. I forgot about this picture. It has been a year since I promised to send it.

06-19-2016, 08:46 PM	#1
regul Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: VA Posts: 96 Thanks: 19 Thanked 57 Times in 20 Posts	Front Sight Adjustment Tools These are three P.08 sight adjust tools I have collected over the years. Ed Attached Thumbnails

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Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 392 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Very nice collection of those tools. I trust they are fairly rare. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

06-19-2016, 10:36 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Nice , any markings? other than the P 08 seen in the picture. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

06-21-2016, 08:06 AM	#5
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	A Finn tool This is a little different. Attached Thumbnails

06-21-2016, 08:48 AM	#6
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 392 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Gosh, fine tools like that take all the excitement (read: cussing and spitting) out of pushing sights. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

06-19-2016, 11:16 PM	#4
regul Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: VA Posts: 96 Thanks: 19 Thanked 57 Times in 20 Posts	Yes, the left one has a very small Swiss Cross on on top near the blade pusher. I will try and get a photo of it tomorrow if I have time after work. The right one is unmarked and fits the slim taper barrels. ie. GRN & M2 I will also try and show the fit of each around the pistol barrel bands. Thanks Ed

06-22-2016, 04:02 AM	#9
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	The M23 tool is good for Tikkakoski 9 mm barrels (see avatar). I have not tried it to other models.

06-22-2016, 02:53 PM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	All, the front sight band and dovetail notch dimensions are clearly dimensioned on the P.08 blueprints. The measurement from the bottom of the barrel band is 17.5mm to the top of the front sight ramp, and the notch is 1.6mm deep. The top of the dovetail notch is 4.2mm front to back and the bottom of the dovetail is 5.4mm. I suggest you buy a copy of the blueprints (shameless plug) and they will come in handy for discussions and projects like this one. You can PM me for purchase instructions or see the Blueprint CD thread in the FOR SALE forum. Here is an extract of the barrel blueprint as an example Attached Images __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-22-2016, 03:14 PM	#14
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	I was trying to get the measures from the non standard 9mm Tikkakoski barrel band. To find out if the Finnish M23 tool could be used in a standard P.08. Jussi16 post got me curious. I already know the P.08 tool can only be used in a P.08.

06-22-2016, 03:59 PM	#15
regul Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: VA Posts: 96 Thanks: 19 Thanked 57 Times in 20 Posts	John Sabato I just wanted to say thank you. It was your idea in a recent post you made to to get a sight adjustment tool thread started. Again Thanks Ed Roane

06-29-2016, 07:41 AM	#16
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	The Tikkakoski barrel I will measure the barrel I told about, but I am on a holiday right now. I will get back home maybe in three or four weeks.

09-20-2017, 04:33 AM	#17
jussi16 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 250 Thanks: 77 Thanked 52 Times in 31 Posts	Tikkakoski ... This fits in very nice to my M23 tool. Tikkakoski barrel. I forgot about this picture. It has been a year since I promised to send it. Attached Thumbnails