Navy 1920 Re-work???

Ron Smith · 06-18-2004, 10:20 AM

Can someone tell me what is meant by a "Navy 1920 re-work"? How is it re-worked. What are the characteristics? Any info appreciated.

Thanks! Ron

Lugerdoc · 06-18-2004, 10:51 AM

Ron, I've seen original Naval issue lugers reworked in many ways during the Weimar period. Perhaps the most common is to have the original barrel shortened to 4" or have a new PO8 barrel installed. Either of these may also entail the replacement of the orig adjustable rear sight with a standard PO8 fixed sight rear toggle link. Usually this was done without changing the original Naval proofing on the pistol. I've also observed some 1917 dated short frames or earlier long frames with stock lug (these may have been left over spare parts) built up with various length and caliber, usually 7.65mm, barrels which were then Crown/N proofed. Simson also rework some lugers for the Weimar/early Nazi Navy with an Eagle/0 proofing on the left receiver. So as you can see, the term Weimar Naval rework, is not very specific. TH

Ron Smith · 06-18-2004, 10:58 AM

Tom Thanks! Then it's pretty much a generic term for re-built to any configuration, during the Weimar era?
Ron

Ron Smith · 06-18-2004, 04:36 PM

Tom Check your PMs.

Ron

Thor · 06-18-2004, 05:19 PM

Tom, I like your AVATAR! Very nice!

Lugerdoc · 06-18-2004, 11:24 PM

Thor, I've always admired your also, but the thanks for mine belongs to John Sabato who created it. Thanks John. TH

Max Mauser · 07-11-2004, 03:10 PM

Hello Gentlemen.

I have a P08 that probably are a reworked naval issue. It is a 1917 overstamped 1920. On the handle there also are stamped "O.200", I belive that this is the stamp for "Ostsee" or? The pistol having the nr 1329, but are also stamped 1917 on the side!?

I am rather a novise to collecting P08 so please bare with me.

How do I post pictures on this forum? Tell me how, and I will post one of this P08.

Edward Tinker · 07-11-2004, 04:12 PM

Kjell,

Go here: http://forums.lugerforum.com/lugerfo...;f=11;t=000072

this is a tutorial that you can use to post pictures. Post lots of pictures for us, top, sides, underneath, etc!

Ed

Max Mauser · 07-11-2004, 07:17 PM

Excellent! Thank you for the tutorial Edward!

The pictures are now posted under the new topic;
"Reworked 1817/20 naval (?) P08 pictures"

Max Mauser · 07-11-2004, 07:20 PM

And I found out yet more, sooo here are the pictures here as well. Living up to the saying "learning by doing" obviously

06-18-2004, 10:20 AM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Navy 1920 Re-work??? Can someone tell me what is meant by a "Navy 1920 re-work"? How is it re-worked. What are the characteristics? Any info appreciated. Thanks! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-18-2004, 10:51 AM	#2
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ron, I've seen original Naval issue lugers reworked in many ways during the Weimar period. Perhaps the most common is to have the original barrel shortened to 4" or have a new PO8 barrel installed. Either of these may also entail the replacement of the orig adjustable rear sight with a standard PO8 fixed sight rear toggle link. Usually this was done without changing the original Naval proofing on the pistol. I've also observed some 1917 dated short frames or earlier long frames with stock lug (these may have been left over spare parts) built up with various length and caliber, usually 7.65mm, barrels which were then Crown/N proofed. Simson also rework some lugers for the Weimar/early Nazi Navy with an Eagle/0 proofing on the left receiver. So as you can see, the term Weimar Naval rework, is not very specific. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-18-2004, 10:58 AM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Tom Thanks! Then it's pretty much a generic term for re-built to any configuration, during the Weimar era? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-18-2004, 04:36 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Tom Check your PMs. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-18-2004, 05:19 PM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Tom, I like your AVATAR! Very nice! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-18-2004, 11:24 PM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Thor, I've always admired your also, but the thanks for mine belongs to John Sabato who created it. Thanks John. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

07-11-2004, 03:10 PM	#7
Max Mauser User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Gentlemen. I have a P08 that probably are a reworked naval issue. It is a 1917 overstamped 1920. On the handle there also are stamped "O.200", I belive that this is the stamp for "Ostsee" or? The pistol having the nr 1329, but are also stamped 1917 on the side!? I am rather a novise to collecting P08 so please bare with me. How do I post pictures on this forum? Tell me how, and I will post one of this P08.

07-11-2004, 04:12 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Kjell, Go here: http://forums.lugerforum.com/lugerfo...;f=11;t=000072 this is a tutorial that you can use to post pictures. Post lots of pictures for us, top, sides, underneath, etc! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-11-2004, 07:17 PM	#9
Max Mauser User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Excellent! Thank you for the tutorial Edward! The pictures are now posted under the new topic; "Reworked 1817/20 naval (?) P08 pictures"

07-11-2004, 07:20 PM	#10
Max Mauser User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And I found out yet more, sooo here are the pictures here as well. Living up to the saying "learning by doing" obviously