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jonnyc · 10-30-2011, 06:23 PM

An older friend of mine recently bought a Luger and later brought it to me for a look-see. It is an apparently all-matching (except mag) "42" from 1939, in VG condition. I'm about 99% sure it's been refinished and I have doubts about the grips. The mag has an aluminum base and an E/63, numbered 8213 n.
Can you guys confirm what I see, point out anything else, and give me an idea of what he should have paid?
Thanks.

Sorry about a couple of those pics, I can redo if necessary.

drbuster · 10-30-2011, 06:43 PM

Jonnyc, be 100% sure it's been refinished because it definitely has! This puts this luger into the shooter category with a price range of $400-600 in this lousy economy. Hope your older friend didn't pay more as it's a shame to have an expensive learning experience at an older age! The grips, if original, could be Krieghoff, and might be worth more than the gun!

jonnyc · 10-30-2011, 06:51 PM

That's what I figured on the finish. Oh, it also came with a repro black leather holster and loading tool.
Let's hear more about those grips.

Edward Tinker · 10-30-2011, 07:36 PM

better pictures would help

do close ups

do close ups of the grips on and off of the gun, front and back

jonnyc · 10-30-2011, 08:16 PM

Hope these help.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-30-2011, 08:25 PM

Are any of the holes in the back of the grips threaded?

jonnyc · 10-30-2011, 09:05 PM

Yes, all 4 holes are threaded.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-30-2011, 10:21 PM

Johnny..The grips are looking better..I am certainly no expert on these but the front sides and the fit look good. The 4 holes being threaded are a good sign..all things considered I would find another pair for the re blued pistol and keep these.

John Sabato · 10-31-2011, 01:54 PM

Definitely refinished gun... now shooter class, not collector.

Hard to confirm anything on photographs, but I concur that IMHO these are Krieghoff luger grips and probably worth several hundred dollars.

tau-delt · 10-31-2011, 03:59 PM

I would agree with John on the HK grips. I call them Type1 on the Black Grip study over on Jan's Forum.....

jonnyc · 10-31-2011, 04:21 PM

Thanks again for all the info.

Lugerdoc · 11-01-2011, 09:41 AM

Jonny, I have new repro checkered wood or black plastic repros available, starting @$25 + $6 S&H.

Dwight Gruber · 11-01-2011, 02:49 PM

The grips are worth more than the pistol.

--Dwight

lugerholsterrepair · 11-01-2011, 03:08 PM

The grips are worth more than the pistol.

Johnny..That statement by Dwight and others might be a little misleading..

I would think the pistol might be in the $500-600 range but Krieg grips won't bring that much. At least several years ago I tried to sell a pair just like these for $300 and couldn't get it. Maybe things have changed but not that much?

10-30-2011, 06:23 PM	#1
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Taken??? An older friend of mine recently bought a Luger and later brought it to me for a look-see. It is an apparently all-matching (except mag) "42" from 1939, in VG condition. I'm about 99% sure it's been refinished and I have doubts about the grips. The mag has an aluminum base and an E/63, numbered 8213 n. Can you guys confirm what I see, point out anything else, and give me an idea of what he should have paid? Thanks. Sorry about a couple of those pics, I can redo if necessary.

10-30-2011, 08:25 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,918 Thanked 3,122 Times in 1,433 Posts	Are any of the holes in the back of the grips threaded? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-30-2011, 10:21 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,918 Thanked 3,122 Times in 1,433 Posts	Johnny..The grips are looking better..I am certainly no expert on these but the front sides and the fit look good. The 4 holes being threaded are a good sign..all things considered I would find another pair for the re blued pistol and keep these. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-31-2011, 01:54 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Definitely refinished gun... now shooter class, not collector. Hard to confirm anything on photographs, but I concur that IMHO these are Krieghoff luger grips and probably worth several hundred dollars. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-31-2011, 03:59 PM	#10
tau-delt User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 106 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	I would agree with John on the HK grips. I call them Type1 on the Black Grip study over on Jan's Forum..... __________________ dave

10-30-2011, 06:43 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Jonnyc, be 100% sure it's been refinished because it definitely has! This puts this luger into the shooter category with a price range of $400-600 in this lousy economy. Hope your older friend didn't pay more as it's a shame to have an expensive learning experience at an older age! The grips, if original, could be Krieghoff, and might be worth more than the gun!

10-30-2011, 06:51 PM	#3
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	That's what I figured on the finish. Oh, it also came with a repro black leather holster and loading tool. Let's hear more about those grips.

10-30-2011, 07:36 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	better pictures would help do close ups do close ups of the grips on and off of the gun, front and back

10-30-2011, 08:16 PM	#5
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Hope these help.

10-30-2011, 09:05 PM	#7
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Yes, all 4 holes are threaded.

10-31-2011, 04:21 PM	#11
jonnyc User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 425 Thanks: 2 Thanked 46 Times in 34 Posts	Thanks again for all the info.

11-01-2011, 09:41 AM	#12
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Jonny, I have new repro checkered wood or black plastic repros available, starting @$25 + $6 S&H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-01-2011, 02:49 PM	#13
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,894 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,291 Times in 426 Posts	The grips are worth more than the pistol. --Dwight

11-01-2011, 03:08 PM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,918 Thanked 3,122 Times in 1,433 Posts	The grips are worth more than the pistol. Johnny..That statement by Dwight and others might be a little misleading.. I would think the pistol might be in the $500-600 range but Krieg grips won't bring that much. At least several years ago I tried to sell a pair just like these for $300 and couldn't get it. Maybe things have changed but not that much? __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."