LugerForum Discussion Forums my profile | register | faq | search
upload photo | donate | calendar

Go Back   LugerForum Discussion Forums > General Discussion Forums > General Discussions

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 05-22-2018, 08:53 AM   #1
castile
User
 
castile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 95
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 12 Posts
Default Have lugers went up on price in the last few years?

I think the last luger I bought was an all matching 1939 in 95% condition. It is very nice 1939 42. I paid 1450 for it, but I see so many asking 2400 and up. Just wondering
castile is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 09:24 AM   #2
Edward Tinker
Super Moderator
Eternal Lifer
LugerForum
Patron
 
Edward Tinker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: North of Spokane, WA
Posts: 15,924
Thanks: 2,014
Thanked 4,518 Times in 2,087 Posts
Default

it isn't that easy - perhaps for this model and when did you buy it?

prices actually went down a few years ago - a lot and have been rebounding

then it depends on where YOU are looking for prices
Edward Tinker is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 09:26 AM   #3
castile
User
 
castile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 95
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 12 Posts
Default

I bought it in 2010.
castile is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 09:27 AM   #4
DavidJayUden
Patron
LugerForum
Patron
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,047
Thanks: 578
Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts
Default

IMHO prices are inching up a bit, but not much. I did most of my buying starting around 2008 when people needed money more than Lugers, and if I could make 20% today I'd be one happy camper.
There continues to be interest, but remember that those to whom Lugers meant the most are moving on and some large collections are coming back onto the market.
I'd say to buy them if you love them, but not to make money.
dju
DavidJayUden is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 5 members says Thank You to DavidJayUden for your post:
Unread 05-22-2018, 10:13 AM   #5
Norme
Always A
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Norme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,417
Thanks: 225
Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts
Default

1939 S/42's are much less common than 1939 42's and that might account for some of the price differential.
Norm
Norme is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 10:22 AM   #6
HerrKaiser
User
 
HerrKaiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 828
Thanks: 778
Thanked 840 Times in 399 Posts
Default

I would say they are about to take a huge price drop here in about 20 years since the main collector demographic are those who are currently retired or close to it. Doesn’t seem that people my age (22) are nearly as interested in these types of things, so sheer lack of demand will likely bring a price drop.
__________________
-QM

Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22
HerrKaiser is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to HerrKaiser for your post:
Unread 05-22-2018, 10:25 AM   #7
Edward Tinker
Super Moderator
Eternal Lifer
LugerForum
Patron
 
Edward Tinker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: North of Spokane, WA
Posts: 15,924
Thanks: 2,014
Thanked 4,518 Times in 2,087 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrKaiser View Post
I would say they are about to take a huge price drop here in about 20 years since the main collector demographic are those who are currently retired or close to it. Doesn’t seem that people my age (22) are nearly as interested in these types of things, so sheer lack of demand will likely bring a price drop.
no offense oh young one, but I have heard this same doom and gloom from old collectors for 40 yrs

I have been buying lugers since 1983 and collecting since 2000 - and I have witnessed some major collections come onto the market. I would say that the last 10 yrs I have seen some major collections come onto the market (in excess of 150+ lugers each, with a few in the 250-350 lugers plus hundreds of 'other guns)
Edward Tinker is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 10:45 AM   #8
castile
User
 
castile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 95
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 12 Posts
Default

I agree, the millennial gen is not interested in the same things. Motorcycles are taking a big hit right now. Its hard to sell a Harley Davidson unless it priced under value. My brother has a 16 Softail heritage with 900 miles on it he bought after his wife passed unexpectedly. He can not get 10900 for it
castile is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to castile for your post:
Unread 05-22-2018, 01:52 PM   #9
DonVoigt
User
 
DonVoigt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: near Charlotte NC
Posts: 4,681
Thanks: 1,441
Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HerrKaiser View Post
I would say they are about to take a huge price drop here in about 20 years since the main collector demographic are those who are currently retired or close to it. Doesn’t seem that people my age (22) are nearly as interested in these types of things, so sheer lack of demand will likely bring a price drop.
"lack of interest, ... lack of demand"- It is more likely "lack of money!"

"People" 22 are still blessed with raging hormones and chasing members of the opposite sex. JMHO.
__________________
03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector.
Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie
DonVoigt is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 02:10 PM   #10
DavidJayUden
Patron
LugerForum
Patron
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,047
Thanks: 578
Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts
Default

and chasing members of the opposite sex

At least that's how it used to be...
dju
DavidJayUden is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 03:30 PM   #11
HerrKaiser
User
 
HerrKaiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 828
Thanks: 778
Thanked 840 Times in 399 Posts
Default

Well, hopefully my chasing days are done and my girlfriend is the last one I had to chase. Otherwise, while I acknowledge that I am much better ahead than many of my peers and age group in terms of how I have managed my finances for the last 10 years, i also note an astonishing amount of disinterest even among my fellow youthful gun owners and collectors. Easily 80% of them who i proudly showed my purchases so far this year have asked if that is a “Ruger” or another type of gun. Still others had no idea what I was showing them at all. Only 3 people could correctly identify them.
__________________
-QM

Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22
HerrKaiser is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to HerrKaiser for your post:
Unread 05-22-2018, 04:31 PM   #12
Mister Sunshine
User
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Cherry Valley, Ca.
Posts: 94
Thanks: 0
Thanked 29 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Three Lugers have gone thru my hands over the years but that was a long time ago. When I was a young man a Luger was hard to sell for a hundred bucks. You could order them from Ye old Hunter for $39 and an artillery model was $69. Of course prices went way up over time but I do see a trend that I don't like. The younger generation just doesn't care about any old gun, whether it be a Colt SA, Luger or you name it. They like the black guns with long magazines. For pistols they prefer them made of plastic. Can you imagine that one day there will be a museum for classic guns and it is filled with plastic. My last trip to the range was ruined by flying brass and steel. I walked down the line of shooters and everyone was shooting one of the black guns, both rifle and pistols. I didn't see even one bolt gun or single shot, which is my passion. Sad day.
Mister Sunshine is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 04:53 PM   #13
mrerick
Super Moderator - Patron
LugerForum
Life Patron
 
mrerick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,907
Thanks: 1,374
Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts
Default

The sheer number of young people that have an education and appreciation for history is a bit less than when I was younger. Still, I have met young people at gun shows that show considerable interest and seem to enjoy discussing firearms from the Luger's period.

I expect that apart from the political correctness that pervades today's social discourse, there is considerable interest in the shooting sports, European history and collecting.

Prices reflect both supply (which - for Lugers - appears stable) and demand. There are a number of places where young people can learn about Lugers today that did not exist when I was younger.

Perhaps as collectors we need to pay more attention to creating displays of history that you can hold in your hand, and start talking about our parent's generation and their experiences during very trying times.

Truth and facts have a way of attracting people that can appreciate the real (as opposed to the virtual) world.

The more people that act on the thought "I'd like one of those" that exist, the higher prices will go.
__________________
Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum -
- Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.
mrerick is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 04:56 PM   #14
castile
User
 
castile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 95
Thanks: 0
Thanked 36 Times in 12 Posts
Default

Some of the blame is on us, I started to get into arrowhead hunting and every where I turned it was silence. I even ran into one guy on a creek trail who told me that the loggers picked up all the arrow heads long ago and that there were copper heads every where.
castile is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-22-2018, 05:12 PM   #15
Kyrie
User
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 757
Thanks: 0
Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts
Default

My experience, offered entirely FWIW.

There appear to me to be two different Luger markets.

One of these markets is for “collector” Lugers, defined as guns with all factory original parts (which includes known/reasonably verifiable service updates/conversions, such as commercial Lugers converted to police use) and at least 60% original finish.

Observed market value (gavel price) of collector Lugers is primarily influenced by variation and within a variation, condition and proper accessories. Region in which the Luger is sold can have a large impact of gavel price. It’s been my observation that the prices brought by these Lugers has, over the last ten to fifteen years, been static or slightly declining.

The other market is for “shooter” Lugers, defined as any Luger that doesn’t qualify as a collector Luger. Gavel prices on these Lugers appears to be driven primarily by cosmetic condition and secondarily by bore condition. Over the last ten to fifteen years I’ve seen gavel prices rise significantly. Over the last five to ten years my experience has been an increase in gavel prices running 10% - 15% a year.

Kyrie
Kyrie is offline   Reply With Quote
The following 2 members says Thank You to Kyrie for your post:
Unread 06-27-2018, 03:52 PM   #16
romer12
User
 
romer12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: N.J.
Posts: 85
Thanks: 3
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Default a Luger sob story

back about 1952 or 53, my brother-in-law bought a 1918 DWM
in MINT condition as well as the holster, also MINT, for $25.00 We thought 9 mm ammo was too high and bought a Ruger 22 for about $39.00 A guy offered us $25.00 for the Luger. We fliped a coin.
$25 or $30. We won the flip and got $30 for a MINT luger.
I've been crying for years over this. Boo Hoo
__________________
blessed are those who expect nothing.........for they shall not be disappointed.
romer12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-27-2018, 05:39 PM   #17
cirelaw
Lifer
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA
Posts: 12,216
Thanks: 6,209
Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts
Default

Buy the best that you can afford!
cirelaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 06-28-2018, 06:10 PM   #18
MikeP
User
 
MikeP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: ILL
Posts: 686
Thanks: 36
Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts
Default

Luger prices have reached the level where they are out of reach of casual buyers.
The days of amassing a collection in short order are long gone.
Varieties are dwindling as well as quality of pieces being sold.
No more or at least few gunshows with tables of Lugers.
Some of this will impact interest, especially younger folks.
It has happened with older cars and other things.
You can't sell a used HD because of the way they flooded the market after a long dry spell.
You can go into a shop and get a new bike on instant credit.
Too many used ones lying around that folks still owe a lot of money on.
MikeP is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to MikeP for your post:
Unread 06-28-2018, 06:15 PM   #19
wlyon
Lifer 2X
Lifetime Forum
Patron
 
wlyon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Somewhere in Montana
Posts: 2,625
Thanks: 3,165
Thanked 2,544 Times in 949 Posts
Default

In 1952 30 dollars was a lot of money. Bill
__________________
Bill Lyon
wlyon is offline   Reply With Quote
The following member says Thank You to wlyon for your post:
Unread 06-28-2018, 07:25 PM   #20
Ron Wood
Moderator
2010 LugerForum
Patron
 
Ron Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso
Posts: 7,005
Thanks: 1,087
Thanked 5,139 Times in 1,689 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wlyon View Post
In 1952 30 dollars was a lot of money. Bill
Yep. You could get a gallon of gas for 20 cents. In a local gas station war my dad bought gas for 10 cents a gallon and filled up a 55 gallon drum he "borrowed" from work. Sure helped with the budget for buying milk, bread and eggs.
Ron
__________________
If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction
Ron Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Lugerforum.com