Broken extractor

Thor · 05-15-2013, 12:11 AM

My client sent me several parts to straw finish. All went well until I started on the extractor and heard one of the extractor ears fly off the part. I noticed the other ear also had a crack the entire depth of the part. I don't remember seeing this before. How common is this? Thanks. Email sent to Lugerdoc for a replacement.

John Sabato · 05-15-2013, 08:58 AM

I am with you Ted... I have never heard of this type of failure on a Luger extractor before. How about a photo?

Thor · 05-15-2013, 10:19 AM

The cracks appear to have started at the corners which are high stress areas. So I assume they are stress fractures from the firing sequence. Perhaps trying to extract a case stuck in the chamber?

lugerholsterrepair · 05-15-2013, 10:34 AM

Ted, One would think the extractor lips would be damaged first before the ears? In your photo the metal looks weird? Can you tell if the extractor is an original? I have not seen this before and I have had several extractor failures on DWM's. Usually it is the small hook on the bottom to hold it in. Mauser beefed up this on it's extractors.

Thor · 05-15-2013, 12:23 PM

Jerry, I don't know, it was pitted that contributes to the weird look. Lugerdoc has a replacement thank goodness.

rhuff · 05-15-2013, 04:51 PM

I have only had two extractors break on me, to date, and both had it occur on 1/2 of the extractor blade. The break was on the right side only(as you hold the gun to fire it). This is a new one to me. Thanks for posting.

Spuhr · 05-20-2013, 02:09 PM

Never seen extractors broke there.
The lip that goes under the pin is what usally breaks off.
But considering the poor surface (pitting) it feels like the parts have been fairly much stressed.

Paladinpainter · 05-29-2013, 08:23 AM

Weird. Looks to me as if the ear was stressed from the front, maybe as the bolt was going into battery ?
John

Lugerdoc · 05-31-2013, 09:19 AM

I agree with John. Perhaps the barrel was changed in this luger, without proper attention to the groove for the extractor being deep enough or correctly positioned. Jerry also makes a good point about the wide spread pitting. Perhaps if this PO8 was in a fire or flood, and then fired with weaked springs, it's liable to break anywhere. TH

05-15-2013, 12:11 AM	#1
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Broken extractor My client sent me several parts to straw finish. All went well until I started on the extractor and heard one of the extractor ears fly off the part. I noticed the other ear also had a crack the entire depth of the part. I don't remember seeing this before. How common is this? Thanks. Email sent to Lugerdoc for a replacement. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

05-15-2013, 08:58 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I am with you Ted... I have never heard of this type of failure on a Luger extractor before. How about a photo? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-15-2013, 10:19 AM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	The cracks appear to have started at the corners which are high stress areas. So I assume they are stress fractures from the firing sequence. Perhaps trying to extract a case stuck in the chamber? __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

05-15-2013, 10:34 AM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,918 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Ted, One would think the extractor lips would be damaged first before the ears? In your photo the metal looks weird? Can you tell if the extractor is an original? I have not seen this before and I have had several extractor failures on DWM's. Usually it is the small hook on the bottom to hold it in. Mauser beefed up this on it's extractors. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

05-15-2013, 12:23 PM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Jerry, I don't know, it was pitted that contributes to the weird look. Lugerdoc has a replacement thank goodness. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

05-15-2013, 04:51 PM	#6
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,288 Thanks: 2,704 Thanked 971 Times in 716 Posts	I have only had two extractors break on me, to date, and both had it occur on 1/2 of the extractor blade. The break was on the right side only(as you hold the gun to fire it). This is a new one to me. Thanks for posting.

05-20-2013, 02:09 PM	#7
Spuhr User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 193 Times in 24 Posts	Never seen extractors broke there. The lip that goes under the pin is what usally breaks off. But considering the poor surface (pitting) it feels like the parts have been fairly much stressed.

05-29-2013, 08:23 AM	#8
Paladinpainter User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 64 Thanks: 14 Thanked 45 Times in 15 Posts	Weird. Looks to me as if the ear was stressed from the front, maybe as the bolt was going into battery ? John

05-31-2013, 09:19 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	I agree with John. Perhaps the barrel was changed in this luger, without proper attention to the groove for the extractor being deep enough or correctly positioned. Jerry also makes a good point about the wide spread pitting. Perhaps if this PO8 was in a fire or flood, and then fired with weaked springs, it's liable to break anywhere. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net