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10-13-2020, 09:24 AM | #1 |
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I have a chance to purchase this Mauser Luger any thoughts on the condition and value from the more knowledgeable members here?
I know the left side is in rougher shape, supposedly that side was sitting in the mud when it was found? I hope the pics attach! Thanks Paul |
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$7-800 tops.
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Good news- it's a Banner, the rest, not so good. Pricing is the question. Looks like a good candidate for restoration but that will not be cheap. Hopefully it is all matching.
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There is lots of info missing...information added could affect pricing..but from what I see so far..If you are trying to make an offer..I wouldn't overpay on what I see here.
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No date or serial numbers? With strawed parts, some kind of commercial or parts put together?
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10-13-2020, 08:28 PM | #6 |
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The serial number under the barrel is 1560. I do have a few more photos I can up load tomorrow morning.
Thanks for the info and help so far. Paul |
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The finish is damaged enough to put it into "shooter" status for most collectors.
If it's a particularly rare commercial Luger, that could change valuation. Is there a date over the chamber? It's got a 1940-1942 era magazine in it. So, as a shooter without further information, I'd agree with Jerry's estimate.
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There is no date on the top front of the receiver. I’ll post the rest of the photos I have in the morning. Our internet here is slow, real slow so it will be better to send from work.
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Crown over U is a Mauser Commercial proof so I agree with the other posters. The front shot I saw of the frame serial appears to show a letter suffix but I could not tell the letter. Any ideas or better pics of the suffix? Also is it a 9mm or 30 Luger? No "P08" on left frame flat so it is a pre 41 production frame
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The CCU proofing would indicate pre-1940 production. The suffix letter of the serial would help to identify whether a police or foreign contract banner luger. TH
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It is a darned shame about that left side as otherwise it is a beautiful piece.
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10-14-2020, 01:31 PM | #12 |
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I’ll get some more photos up in a bit. It appears to be all matching.
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Here are some more photos
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The back story. A US armored unit was taking a town when they encountered fierce resistance resulting in casualties on both sides. As the fighting ended and the Americans advanced their progress was halted again by a sniper. The sniper was taken out and the unit advanced. One of the armored units soldiers saw this pistol in the hand of a dead officer, the left side of the pistol laying in a muddy puddle.
Not sure a few days in a puddle of mud would do this type of damage? Maybe some blood as well? |
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That gun is so nice I would be tempted to contact Ted Green (Thor) to see what he could do to restore the left side.
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This amount of corrosion was not caused by a few days in a muddy puddle ... IMO more like months of neglect in an improper storage situation IE: in some wet cardboard box at the back of the garage with the leaky roof ... or in a box in the corner of a damp basement prone to flooding in the spring or heavy rain showers. Wait until you take the grips off and look at the frame and inside components, something you must insist on doing BEFORE buying this gun. Have Fun whatever you do. This gun very much reminds me of my last restoration and you won't know how much of an effort will be needed until you look inside but as far as exterior corrosion goes Ive seen worse. |
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Serial number 1560v. The gun looks to be consistent with others in that serial number range in Joop's data on the other Forum. No chamber date, C/U, small Banner, and no proof marks on receiver.
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The old adage "buy the gun and not the story" is very much in play here IMO. I agree with Spangy that a few days in muddy water would not cause that much corrosion unless there was a chemical in that water. The first thing the troop who recovered it would have done is clean and oil it.
I'd also want a look at the bore as a few days without cleaning if corrosive cartridges had been fired through it would cause damage. If you buy the gun, buy it for what you see and not for any story that comes with it. |
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I’m working on getting a better photo or a verbal confirmation on the letter below the barrel. The owner says it is a 30 Luger.
While stories are cool they will not be the reason I buy the pistol. Seems like these have some sort of addictive trait to them! Thanks for all the info so far. Paul |
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