'06 Swiss Commercial listed

ithacaartist · 04-07-2015, 06:36 PM

Noticed this today. $1995 reserve. Are short barrels like this correct?
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/13335284//

Dwight Gruber · 04-07-2015, 09:36 PM

Short barrels with the old-model-style sight are a known variation. Were I interested in this pistol, I would want to know what proofs are on it, and what the thumb safety indicator looks like.

--Dwight

Sergio Natali · 04-08-2015, 10:51 AM

Nice gun, in fact from the pictures we cannot see any B,U G proofmark on the barrel underside used from 1893 until about 1940.
I would assume this gun was produced after 1914 but before the Treaty of Versailles (1920) otherwise the matriculation would have been of the German military type (four digits followed by an italic letter).

Sergio

MFC · 04-12-2015, 09:08 PM

This Swiss commercial #87167 is at the end of the '20 DWM Commercial' range, which ended in early 1921. The Alphabet Commercial range began immediately after. There are a few examples, probably small batches, produced in this configuration in that time frame. This is the earliest example I have seen.
The Cross in Starburst in my avatar is the same configuration. It and all of the others I have seen in the past are in the early (i suffix) Alphabet Commercial range.

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Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Nice gun, in fact from the pictures we cannot see any B,U G proofmark on the barrel underside used from 1893 until about 1940. I would assume this gun was produced after 1914 but before the Treaty of Versailles (1920) otherwise the matriculation would have been of the German military type (four digits followed by an italic letter). Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

04-12-2015, 09:08 PM	#4
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	This Swiss commercial #87167 is at the end of the '20 DWM Commercial' range, which ended in early 1921. The Alphabet Commercial range began immediately after. There are a few examples, probably small batches, produced in this configuration in that time frame. This is the earliest example I have seen. The Cross in Starburst in my avatar is the same configuration. It and all of the others I have seen in the past are in the early (i suffix) Alphabet Commercial range. __________________ Mike C.

04-07-2015, 09:36 PM	#2
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,317 Times in 431 Posts	Short barrels with the old-model-style sight are a known variation. Were I interested in this pistol, I would want to know what proofs are on it, and what the thumb safety indicator looks like. --Dwight