Correct Magazine For A 1936 S 42?

Tiberius · 11-19-2004, 12:42 PM

Can any one tell me what the correct magazine would be for a 1936 S 42 K suffix?
Is there anyting I should look for other than the tube color, bottom material,button design, and the correct waffenampt or FXO for this period?
I have a magazine that came with the Luger when I purchased it, aluminum button, blued tube color, # 7552, q suffix, and a stick eagle with 63 under the eagle. Any leads on what this magazine is?

Frank · 11-19-2004, 04:36 PM

Your 1936 K-Block Luger should have a nickel plated tube with an aluminum bottom. The Waffenamt Mark should be a droop eagle-over-63. I would also try for a magazine bottom with a "K" suffix!!

Good Luck

Leon DeSpain · 11-19-2004, 05:53 PM

Hi Tiberius & Frank,

Check this out.

http://lmd-militaria.com/page516.html

Regards, Leon

Frank · 11-19-2004, 07:14 PM

Yup, that's the one!!

Tiberius · 11-22-2004, 01:53 PM

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help.

Dwight Gruber · 11-22-2004, 03:24 PM

I was under the impression that for this gun it would be a blued tube...??

--Dwight

marine kabar · 11-22-2004, 04:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dwight Gruber:
I was under the impression that for this gun it would be a blued tube...??

--Dwight<hr /></blockquote>I'm new at this but if I'm remembering what I was told the switch to blued steel magazine bodies occured shortly after this "k" suffix pistol was made.

Greg

RockinWR · 11-22-2004, 07:57 PM

Greg,
* You are essentially correct. But be aware, there are few absolutes at Lugerland transition points. Only what is likely or most often seen!
* While less than a dozen reported 1936 chamber dated Lugers bear a blue tubed-droop winged Eagle 63 mag before the "m" block (some as early as the 1936 "g" block), the major transition to the blue tubed Mauser Military, Type 2 mag (2-MM-dE63) is generally accepted to be the 1936 "m" block. This based on an increasing frequency of blue tubed, matching mag examples seen after that point.
* The blue tubed cut over did not occur instantaneously at a set S/N; but, phased in over a number of subsequent S/N blocks. The 2-MM-dE63 slowly replaced the nickle colored tube (1-MM-dE63) as they were used up.
* Consequently, correct matching mag or dual matching mag example "exceptions" can be found both earlier and later than the "m" block. This is where judgement and experience, honed by years of critically examining honest and not so honest Luger examples, can prevent mistakes.
* Now that being said, it is highly likely the "k" block mag Leon offered as an example and Frank confirmed is period correct for your 1936 "k" block.
* As to your "q" block mag(2-MM-sE63), it could be a 1937 mag as this was the transitional start of the dE63 to the sE63 mag acceptance. More likely, it is a 1939 mag. Only way to definitively tell is by the size of the sE63(small, medium, or large) and this differentiator is still subject to some debate in Lugerland.
* Hope this "shade of grey" answer helps.
Respectfully,
Bob

11-19-2004, 12:42 PM	#1
Tiberius User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Correct Magazine For A 1936 S 42? Can any one tell me what the correct magazine would be for a 1936 S 42 K suffix? Is there anyting I should look for other than the tube color, bottom material,button design, and the correct waffenampt or FXO for this period? I have a magazine that came with the Luger when I purchased it, aluminum button, blued tube color, # 7552, q suffix, and a stick eagle with 63 under the eagle. Any leads on what this magazine is?

11-22-2004, 04:09 PM	#7
marine kabar User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Powder Springs GA Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Dwight Gruber: <strong>I was under the impression that for this gun it would be a blued tube...?? --Dwight</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I'm new at this but if I'm remembering what I was told the switch to blued steel magazine bodies occured shortly after this "k" suffix pistol was made. Greg

11-19-2004, 04:36 PM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Your 1936 K-Block Luger should have a nickel plated tube with an aluminum bottom. The Waffenamt Mark should be a droop eagle-over-63. I would also try for a magazine bottom with a "K" suffix!! Good Luck

11-19-2004, 05:53 PM	#3
Leon DeSpain User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Hi Tiberius & Frank, Check this out. http://lmd-militaria.com/page516.html Regards, Leon

11-19-2004, 07:14 PM	#4
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Yup, that's the one!!

11-22-2004, 01:53 PM	#5
Tiberius User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help.

11-22-2004, 03:24 PM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,312 Times in 430 Posts	I was under the impression that for this gun it would be a blued tube...?? --Dwight

11-22-2004, 07:57 PM	#8
RockinWR User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: D/FW, Tx Posts: 279 Thanks: 109 Thanked 31 Times in 16 Posts	Greg, * You are essentially correct. But be aware, there are few absolutes at Lugerland transition points. Only what is likely or most often seen! * While less than a dozen reported 1936 chamber dated Lugers bear a blue tubed-droop winged Eagle 63 mag before the "m" block (some as early as the 1936 "g" block), the major transition to the blue tubed Mauser Military, Type 2 mag (2-MM-dE63) is generally accepted to be the 1936 "m" block. This based on an increasing frequency of blue tubed, matching mag examples seen after that point. * The blue tubed cut over did not occur instantaneously at a set S/N; but, phased in over a number of subsequent S/N blocks. The 2-MM-dE63 slowly replaced the nickle colored tube (1-MM-dE63) as they were used up. * Consequently, correct matching mag or dual matching mag example "exceptions" can be found both earlier and later than the "m" block. This is where judgement and experience, honed by years of critically examining honest and not so honest Luger examples, can prevent mistakes. * Now that being said, it is highly likely the "k" block mag Leon offered as an example and Frank confirmed is period correct for your 1936 "k" block. * As to your "q" block mag(2-MM-sE63), it could be a 1937 mag as this was the transitional start of the dE63 to the sE63 mag acceptance. More likely, it is a 1939 mag. Only way to definitively tell is by the size of the sE63(small, medium, or large) and this differentiator is still subject to some debate in Lugerland. * Hope this "shade of grey" answer helps. Respectfully, Bob