Crates full of P08s

SIGP2101 · 01-28-2019, 11:05 AM

When was the last time you saw crates full of Lugers. They are all destined to be melt. Bunch of P38, MG42 & P08.

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/cont...af.htm/player/

Edward Tinker · 01-28-2019, 11:09 AM

says not page found - these new found lugers etc?

and to answer that question - only in pictures - not counting on consignment on walls

SIGP2101 · 01-28-2019, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

says not page found - these new found lugers etc?

Try again.

hayhugh · 01-28-2019, 11:17 AM

I'll bid on an unopened box...…….

Curly1 · 01-28-2019, 11:57 AM

Wow they are still out there.

Edward Tinker · 01-28-2019, 12:02 PM

Hopefully someone sees this and offers x dollars for a few dozen boxes....

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A number of experts previously expressed fears that the German weapons used might allegedly carry historical value. However, the Ministry of Defense noted that this is not the case. As the spokesman, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, said in the construction of small arms, ammunition, some elements of armored vehicles and artillery installations will be used. Techniques and weapons of historical value will not be used

Kyrie · 01-28-2019, 12:08 PM

On man's meat is another man's poison:

DonVoigt · 01-28-2019, 12:33 PM

Now we know what "real" RC weapons look like.

I don't think we need to worry that they will be "allowed" into the US; saving our luger(and P 38 and MG 42) market from a precipitous price drops!

Vlim · 01-28-2019, 01:11 PM

They could bring in hard cash on the European deactivation market.

Edward Tinker · 01-28-2019, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim

They could bring in hard cash on the European deactivation market.

let alone the black market - when I was in Berlin, the Russians were just leaving - rumor was, you could buy just about anything

Sergio Natali · 01-29-2019, 09:09 AM

I would think that they must realize how much cash they could have if only they put at least some of those guns on the civil market in Europe and in the States.

I really hope they won't destroy them!

MW2152 · 01-29-2019, 11:54 AM

The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days?

Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.

Edward Tinker · 01-29-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MW2152

The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days?

Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.

they have previously been added when the importer got them (I do not know for sure, but either before importation or right after)

DavidJayUden · 01-29-2019, 01:40 PM

I thought we (USA) were no longer importing military weapons, parts kits only?
dju

hayhugh · 01-29-2019, 04:01 PM

All kinds of used imported handguns: https://www.classicfirearms.com/hand...95884396647687

k98mike · 01-29-2019, 06:10 PM

I realize that bringing these Lugers into the US would lower some prices, but I just hate to see them destroyed. There goes some more history.
People already don't know what it means.

HerrKaiser · 01-29-2019, 06:56 PM

As someone looking to expand my collection, lower prices would be readily received. If my role were that of a long time collector or someone wishing to sell them, I can see the issue on the flip side. That of devaluing the collection and/or not getting the money out of liquidating it or selling them to finance other projects.

Ron Wood · 01-29-2019, 07:17 PM

There may be a few minty examples in those chests, but for the most part I suspect they are on the low end of collecting condition. That could drive down the prices a bit for entry level collection pieces, but it would have no effect on high condition Luger prices in my opinion. However, the impact of these guns on the marking is moot as not a one of them will legally make their way into the US and given the current gun climate in Europe not many will end up there either. Parts on the other hand may be a bonanza.
Ron

DavidJayUden · 01-29-2019, 07:30 PM

Do we currently have a ban on importing this stuff? i had it in my head that the "good ole' days" are behind us as far as large quantities of warehoused arms showing up on the US market.
dju

Sergio Natali · 01-30-2019, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

... and given the current gun climate in Europe not many will end up there either...
Ron

You're right there Ron.

01-28-2019, 11:05 AM	#1
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	Crates full of P08s When was the last time you saw crates full of Lugers. They are all destined to be melt. Bunch of P38, MG42 & P08. https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/cont...af.htm/player/

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DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,678 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,348 Times in 2,038 Posts	Now we know what "real" RC weapons look like. I don't think we need to worry that they will be "allowed" into the US; saving our luger(and P 38 and MG 42) market from a precipitous price drops! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I would think that they must realize how much cash they could have if only they put at least some of those guns on the civil market in Europe and in the States. I really hope they won't destroy them! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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k98mike User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 141 Thanks: 280 Thanked 48 Times in 30 Posts	Crates o Lugers I realize that bringing these Lugers into the US would lower some prices, but I just hate to see them destroyed. There goes some more history. People already don't know what it means.

01-28-2019, 11:09 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	says not page found - these new found lugers etc? and to answer that question - only in pictures - not counting on consignment on walls

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hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 885 Thanks: 851 Thanked 508 Times in 271 Posts	I'll bid on an unopened box...…….

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Kyrie User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 757 Thanks: 0 Thanked 212 Times in 101 Posts	On man's meat is another man's poison:

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Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,045 Thanks: 1,034 Thanked 3,939 Times in 1,196 Posts	They could bring in hard cash on the European deactivation market.

01-29-2019, 11:54 AM	#12
MW2152 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 50 Thanks: 11 Thanked 35 Times in 20 Posts	The Tokarevs are the old original military style right? With no safety? Don’t they have to have a safety to meet the ATF import requirements these days? Lugers and P38s would sure meet the rules tho.

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	I thought we (USA) were no longer importing military weapons, parts kits only? dju

01-29-2019, 04:01 PM	#15
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 885 Thanks: 851 Thanked 508 Times in 271 Posts	All kinds of used imported handguns: https://www.classicfirearms.com/hand...95884396647687

01-29-2019, 06:56 PM	#17
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 805 Thanks: 753 Thanked 801 Times in 379 Posts	As someone looking to expand my collection, lower prices would be readily received. If my role were that of a long time collector or someone wishing to sell them, I can see the issue on the flip side. That of devaluing the collection and/or not getting the money out of liquidating it or selling them to finance other projects. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

01-29-2019, 07:17 PM	#18
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	There may be a few minty examples in those chests, but for the most part I suspect they are on the low end of collecting condition. That could drive down the prices a bit for entry level collection pieces, but it would have no effect on high condition Luger prices in my opinion. However, the impact of these guns on the marking is moot as not a one of them will legally make their way into the US and given the current gun climate in Europe not many will end up there either. Parts on the other hand may be a bonanza. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-29-2019, 07:30 PM	#19
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Do we currently have a ban on importing this stuff? i had it in my head that the "good ole' days" are behind us as far as large quantities of warehoused arms showing up on the US market. dju