Lucky in Auction?

hayhugh · 03-26-2014, 03:43 PM

Threw a bid on a Swiss 06 this weekend, it arrived this AM. Had a hard time with the locking bolt. There was a light hard film of green grease on most of the parts. Thought I would ask you guys for your opinions. Thank you, Hugh

Well, I tried to download @ six photos by attachment, but I guess there is a trick other then the manage attachment below. I see other attached photos that you are able to enlarge and zoom on but I am not having any luck...

ADMIN NOTE: I have uploaded the first sample photo that you sent me. The original size is almost 3 megabytes. The upload process (using the manage attachments feature took almost 30 seconds for a single photo, if you attempted to upload a half dozen photos at once, it would have taken several minutes before the process was completed. The final upload size as converted by the forum software process was about 240 kilobytes. Try to upload a single photo in a new post to this thread and wait at least 5 minutes before giving up, or until the photo has been uploaded. -JS

mrerick · 03-26-2014, 04:26 PM

Remember, on the 1906 model you have to press the grip safety in before you can draw back the toggle and swing down the locking lever...

Marc

basler40 · 03-27-2014, 07:38 AM

The green grease is more than likely waffenfet or automatenfett. Waffenfett is yellow/amber grease that can turn (light) green with age and/or exposure. Waffenfett is conjectured to be a sperm oil & lanolin based grease, and was replaced by automatenfett in the '50s. Automatenfett is a dark grey/green lithium grease.
Both are excellent.
http://www.lba.admin.ch/internet/lba...19.3328v02.pdf

John Sabato · 03-27-2014, 08:18 AM

If the photos are on the large side, once you have hit the upload button, then go make a pot of coffee while the file transfer takes place... eventually, they will be attached to your post, and will be listed. Once that happens, then you can close the upload window. Try it and let me know how it goes.

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 08:32 AM

The main reason I wanted to post photos is because I think the green grease may have been applied a long time ago. Terrible hard time removing the locking bolt. Tracking down reason was rather simple after changing out the trigger plate with another. The tang on the side of the trigger plate that the locking bolt covers was too thick. Who knows when it was installed (may be original form the factory) but did not show signs of forced removal, which I had to do (wood dowel) and so might have limited actual use of gun! Very little wear on sharp edges and the green grease on most parts. Still have to do a better cleaning of barrel (looks like inside of smooth glass tube because of grease.

Over all shape of gun is excellent. All parts of gun match, even grips. When I figger out how to post photos - will do so.

Not bad buy for $850.00

Edward Tinker · 03-27-2014, 08:55 AM

I am always leery of 'old grease". I was overseas for just over 7 years, 93-2000 and I greased up all my guns that I left at my dads.

You'd swear it was WW2 cosmoline when I got back....
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sounds like a heck of a deal!

John Sabato · 03-27-2014, 11:05 AM

Sounds like you need Hoppe's #9 or mineral spirits with a toothbrush to get that stuff off...

Olle · 03-27-2014, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato

Sounds like you need Hoppe's #9 or mineral spirits with a toothbrush to get that stuff off...

Ed's Red works as well, and it's cheap enough for dunking large parts/subassemblies or even the whole gun. Just be careful with painted areas, I use the formula without the acetone, but it may still affect paint. The only place on a Luger would be the text behind the safety, so I would be careful with that.

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 11:38 AM

I have the barrel and extension soaking in KROIL at the present, let is sit overnight and use a brass brush on it in the morning, no hurry.

Sieger · 03-27-2014, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayhugh

I have the barrel and extension soaking in KROIL at the present, let is sit overnight and use a brass brush on it in the morning, no hurry.

Hi,

WD-40 and a tooth brush always works for me!

After you have "degummed" the pistol, I'm sure it will work with all of the original parts reinstalled.

Good luck with your fine acquisition!!! If all ends up well, your purchase price is an unbelievable steal!!

Sieger

John Sabato · 03-27-2014, 02:13 PM

See my note and photo in your original posting above...

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 02:34 PM

John, tried to upload one jpg photo and it turned me down.

John Sabato · 03-27-2014, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayhugh

John, tried to upload one jpg photo and it turned me down.

Please hit the Alt-PRNT SCRN Keys when you get the error and paste it in an email (if you are using outlook) and send it to me...

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 02:54 PM

It took two of the photos - will try some more on next post.

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 03:05 PM

It took another four!

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 03:16 PM

Thanks to John I have posted all the photos that I have taken so far. Any info that you gentleman can gleam from them would be appreciated. Thank you, Hugh

PS, I think its $850.00 well spent.........

hayhugh · 03-27-2014, 09:01 PM

Can anyone explain what the printing on the right side of the gun means? Is that the year manufacture or the model (1924)?

tomaustin · 03-27-2014, 10:03 PM

what is the inscription on the inside of the lower grip?

LU1900 · 03-27-2014, 10:46 PM

Nice one ; originals mags are difficult to find , and they are very specials for the bottom

basler40 · 03-28-2014, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomaustin

what is the inscription on the inside of the lower grip?

Looks like U(?) Studer written on both grips.
Almost certainly the name of the fellow to which the pistol was issued.

Just like the Swiss rifles that have name tags under the butt plates, Swiss pistols, revolvers & autos, will have the soldier's name on them

Mine.
previous owner Soldat Anton Zeder, Mineur Kompagine 2
Marked Zeder
and very lightly in the follower groove,Hangen Yoelen (?)

see: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=17129

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayhugh

Can anyone explain what the printing on the right side of the gun means? Is that the year manufacture or the model (1924)?

Importer info
OOW INC CHARBON OH (Ohio Ordnance Works, Inc. )
Type
1924 SWISS (Sometimes called Swiss 1906/1924)
Caliber
7.65

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayhugh

Not bad buy for $850.00

Yep.

Check inside the frame for a date (LU1900's photo)

Mine only has Z Z (and Automatenfett

)

Gentlemen & Ladies with better resources may have the date of mfr. based on the serial number in the Swiss section.

03-26-2014, 03:43 PM	#1
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Lucky in Auction? Threw a bid on a Swiss 06 this weekend, it arrived this AM. Had a hard time with the locking bolt. There was a light hard film of green grease on most of the parts. Thought I would ask you guys for your opinions. Thank you, Hugh Well, I tried to download @ six photos by attachment, but I guess there is a trick other then the manage attachment below. I see other attached photos that you are able to enlarge and zoom on but I am not having any luck... ADMIN NOTE: I have uploaded the first sample photo that you sent me. The original size is almost 3 megabytes. The upload process (using the manage attachments feature took almost 30 seconds for a single photo, if you attempted to upload a half dozen photos at once, it would have taken several minutes before the process was completed. The final upload size as converted by the forum software process was about 240 kilobytes. Try to upload a single photo in a new post to this thread and wait at least 5 minutes before giving up, or until the photo has been uploaded. -JS Attached Thumbnails

03-26-2014, 04:26 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Remember, on the 1906 model you have to press the grip safety in before you can draw back the toggle and swing down the locking lever... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-27-2014, 07:38 AM	#3
basler40 User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 19 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Green grease The green grease is more than likely waffenfet or automatenfett. Waffenfett is yellow/amber grease that can turn (light) green with age and/or exposure. Waffenfett is conjectured to be a sperm oil & lanolin based grease, and was replaced by automatenfett in the '50s. Automatenfett is a dark grey/green lithium grease. Both are excellent. http://www.lba.admin.ch/internet/lba...19.3328v02.pdf

03-27-2014, 08:18 AM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	If the photos are on the large side, once you have hit the upload button, then go make a pot of coffee while the file transfer takes place... eventually, they will be attached to your post, and will be listed. Once that happens, then you can close the upload window. Try it and let me know how it goes. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-27-2014, 08:55 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,928 Thanks: 2,028 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	I am always leery of 'old grease". I was overseas for just over 7 years, 93-2000 and I greased up all my guns that I left at my dads. You'd swear it was WW2 cosmoline when I got back.... . . . sounds like a heck of a deal! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-27-2014, 08:32 AM	#5
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	The main reason I wanted to post photos is because I think the green grease may have been applied a long time ago. Terrible hard time removing the locking bolt. Tracking down reason was rather simple after changing out the trigger plate with another. The tang on the side of the trigger plate that the locking bolt covers was too thick. Who knows when it was installed (may be original form the factory) but did not show signs of forced removal, which I had to do (wood dowel) and so might have limited actual use of gun! Very little wear on sharp edges and the green grease on most parts. Still have to do a better cleaning of barrel (looks like inside of smooth glass tube because of grease. Over all shape of gun is excellent. All parts of gun match, even grips. When I figger out how to post photos - will do so. Not bad buy for $850.00

03-27-2014, 11:05 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Sounds like you need Hoppe's #9 or mineral spirits with a toothbrush to get that stuff off... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-27-2014, 11:38 AM	#9
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	I have the barrel and extension soaking in KROIL at the present, let is sit overnight and use a brass brush on it in the morning, no hurry.

03-27-2014, 02:13 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	See my note and photo in your original posting above... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-27-2014, 02:34 PM	#12
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	John, tried to upload one jpg photo and it turned me down.

03-27-2014, 02:54 PM	#14
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	It took two of the photos - will try some more on next post. Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2014, 03:05 PM	#15
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	It took another four! Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2014, 03:16 PM	#16
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Thanks to John I have posted all the photos that I have taken so far. Any info that you gentleman can gleam from them would be appreciated. Thank you, Hugh PS, I think its $850.00 well spent......... Attached Thumbnails

03-27-2014, 09:01 PM	#17
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 893 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Can anyone explain what the printing on the right side of the gun means? Is that the year manufacture or the model (1924)?

03-27-2014, 10:03 PM	#18
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	what is the inscription on the inside of the lower grip?

03-27-2014, 10:46 PM	#19
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 907 Thanks: 40 Thanked 468 Times in 196 Posts	Nice one ; originals mags are difficult to find , and they are very specials for the bottom __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/