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Droop Wing Eagle=DE, Stick Wing Eagle =SE, Mid Test Proof=MTP 1937 1938 DATA REQUEST March 7, 2009 1937 S/42, sn 5607p, DE/63 DE/63, Strawed. 1937 S/42, sn 6874p, DE/63 DE/63, Strawed, no frame hump 1937 S/42, sn 7394p, DE/63 DE/63, Strawed, no frame hump . 1937 S/42, sn 7524p, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 7727p, DE/63 DE/63 MTP; Strawed, 1937 S/42, sn 7868 p, DE63 1937 S/42, sn 8055p DE 63 DE 63 MTP, strawed, no hump 1937 S/42, sn 8709p DE/63 DE/63 MTP, strawed, no hump, matched blued tube magazine 1937 S/42, sn 309q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, straw 1937 S/42, sn 1004q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP Strawed, no hump. 1937 S/42, sn 1789q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 2322q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 6008q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (Strawed) 1937 S/42, sn 6220q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed 1937 S/42, sn 8044q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 333r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, straw. 1937 S/42, sn 1237r DE/63, DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 12xxr, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (Simpsons list) 1937 S/42, sn1489r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed small parts. 1937 S/42 sn 1521r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 1682r, DE/63 DE/63--no hump, 1937 S/42, sn 2839r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, matched mag with SE/63, no hump, straw. 1937 S/42, sn 3688r, DE63 DE63 MTP, strawed small parts, no hump 1937 S/42, sn 7121r, DE/63,DE/63, w/straw 1937 S/42, sn 8556r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (mag stick E/63) 1937 S/42 sn 8583r, ----KM O.2887 1937 S/42, sn 9557r, Strawed, KM N 2355 on back strap. 1937 S/42, sn 9581r, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42 sn 9881r, DE/63, DE/63, MTP,--- KM N2354 1937 S/42 sn 407s, ----KM N2373 1937 S/42 sn 532s, ----KM O.2642 1937 S/42 sn 533s, ----KM O.2940 1937 S/42, sn 671s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 1166s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 1260s DE/63 DE/63 MTP---KM O.3261 1937 S/42, sn 2834s DE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 3461s, DE63 DE63 MTP note: matching mag has SE63 proof 1937, S/42, sn 6424s, DE63 DE63 MTP, strawed, bump, grips not numbered, matching blue tube SE63 mag 1937, S/42, sn 6902s, DE63 DE63 MTP, blued, bump, matching grips 1937 S/42, sn 7224s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, hump, straw, 1937 S/42, sn 7346s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame bump, strawed 1937 S/42, sn 9033s, DE/63 DE/63, MTP, straw, mauser hump, match. mag. WaA SE/63. 1937 S/42 sn 9241s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 9746s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed 1937, S/42, sn 641t, DE63 DE63 MTP, Blued, bump, barrel DE63 left side, mag DE63, 1937 S/42, sn 996t, DE63 DE63 MTP, strawed, frame hump 1937 S/42, sn1144t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed small parts, one matching mag 1937 S/42, sn 1264t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP; strawed, hump; matching mag SE63 1937 S/42, sn 1860t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 1958t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, strawed and frame hump 1937 S/42, sn 2878t, strawed, humped 1937 S/42, sn 1291u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame bump, blued 1937 S/42, sn 1412u DE 63 DE 63 MTP Blued ..Match. mag has SE/63 acceptance 1937 S/42, sn 2481u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame hump, blued 1937 S/42, sn 4185u, DE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 6047u, DE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 6561u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 6835u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP strawed 1937 S/42, sn 9094u, DE/63 DE/63 MTP w/matching mag SE/63, small parts blue, no hump. 1937 S/42, sn 235v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 1991v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 2604 v, DE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42 sn 3253v, DE63 DE63 MTP 1937, S/42, sn 3695v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (all blue) 1937 S/42, sn 4235v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP blued small parts. 1937 S/42, sn 4940v, DE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 4995v, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 8581v DE63 DE/63 MTP, all blue, frame hump, 1937 S/42, sn 2099w, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, frame bump, blued, Mag SE/63 matched 1937, S/42, sn 7577w, DE63 DE63, (mag SE63) 1937 S/42, sn 33x, DE/63 DE/63, MTP, hump, all blue 1937 S/42 sn 1321x DE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42 sn 1646x DE63 DE63 MTP; hump, blue, mag matched SE/63 1937 S/42, sn 2536x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 3271x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 4497x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 874x, DE63 1937 S/42, sn 9077x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 9538x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP blued small parts. 1937 S/42 sn 9553x, DE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued, hump 1937 S/42, sn121y DE/?3 DE/63 MTP match. mags stick E/63 - extractor strawed no. 21. 1937 S/42, sn 1502y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 2053y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP (all blued), Matching magazine blued with alu bottom DE/63 marked. 1937, S42, sn 2310y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 3425y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 4032y, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 4147y, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, all blued with hump 1937 S/42, sn 6805 y, SE63 DE63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 9512 y, SE63 SE63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn1755z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued. matching mag SE/63 acceptance. 1937 S/42, sn2926z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued, grips matched, hump, inside side plate number 29. 1937 S/42, sn 3279z, SE/63,SE/63, blue, matching grips, matching mag SE/63 1937 S/42, sn 3289z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 3632z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 3664z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 3997z, SE63 DE63 MTP 1937, S/42, sn 5630z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, blued, matching mag 1937 S/42, sn 5970z, DE/63 DE/63 MTP blued small parts. 1937 S/42, sn 6303z, SE/63 DE/63, blue, matching grips 1937 S/42 sn 7408z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 9156 z, SE63 DE63, all blue. Rear hump. 2 matching mags SW63. 1937 S/42 sn 9551z, SE/63 DE/63 MTP, hump 1937 S/42 sn 367, SE63 SE63 (both small) MTP; Mauser hump. 1937 S/42, sn 487, SE63(Large) SE63(Small) MTP, blued; Police 2 mm 1937 S/42 sn 2460ns, SE/63, SE/63 (small), MTP 1937 S/42 sn 3060ns, SE/63, SE/63, MTP 1937 S/42 sn 3513ns, SE/63, SE/63, MTP 1937. S/42, sn 4177, SE/63,SE/63, MTP (all blue) 1937 S/42, sn 4437ns, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 6187, SE/63 SE 63, hump, all blue 1937 S/42, sn 6629, DE63 DE63, Strawed, humped frame & matching mag.??? 1937 S/42, sn 7219ns, SE/63,(SE/63 smaller size) MTP 1937 S/42 sn 8831ns, SE/63, SE/63, MTP 1937 S/42, sn 572a, SE/63 (SE/63 smaller size) MTP 1937 S/42, sn 1982a, SE/63 (large), SE/63 (small), MTP, hump present, no blue (finish removed from entire firearm). It appears that the small parts had been blued. 1937 S/42, sn 2345a, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1937. S/42 sn 3746a,SE/63,SE/63, MTP 1937. S/42 sn 4376a,SE/63,SE/63, MTP (all blue) 1937 S/42, sn 6054a, SE63 SE63 MTP, all blue, Mauser hump. 1937 S/42, sn 6295a, SE63 SE63 MTP, all blue, matching grips 1937 S/42, sn 6387a, SE/83 SE/63 (the 83 is definite the 63 is from a worn die?)MTP 1937 S/42, sn 8091a, SE/63 SE/63 1937 S/42, sn 9440a, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 150b, SE/63 SE/63 MTP (first SE/63 may also be an SE/83). 1937 S/42, sn 8xxb, SE/63 SE/63 MTP (Simpsons list) 1938 S/42, sn 2084b, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 5039b SE63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 5304b, SE/63 SE/63 MTP(not certain, 63 or 83) 1938 S/42, sn 7288b, SE/83 SE/83 MTP(hard to tell 63 or 83) 1938,S/42, sn 9210b, SE/63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 3364c, SE/63 SE/63 MTP(not certain, 63 or 83) 1938 S/42, sn 3922c, SE/63, SE/63 1938 S42, sn 7171c, SE63, matching mag SE63 1938 S/42, sn 7358c, SE/83, SE/63, MTP 1938 S/42 sn 9740c, ----KM N3726 1938 S/42, sn 1065d, SE/63,SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 1901d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP with 2 matching mags SE/63 1938 S/42, sn 3446d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn3742d, SE/83 SE/63 MTP Mag SE/83 #1274L 1938 S/42, sn 5392d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 5972d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 6601d, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 6719d, SE/83 SE/83 MTP (hard to tell 83 or 63) 1938 S/42, sn 514e, SE/63 SE/63 MTP (Hard to tell, with a 10x glass, I say SE/63) 1938 S/42 sn 2036e, ----KM N3048 1938 S/42 sn 898f, ----KM O.3573 1938,S/42, sn 4263f, SE/63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 4694f, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 9xxxf, DE/83 DE/63 1938 S/42, sn 1542g, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 7433g SE/83 SE/63 MTP (SE/83 hard to tell) 1938 S42, sn 7857g, SE63 1938 S/42, sn 593h, SE/63 SE/63, KM O.3189 1938 S/42 sn 599h, ----KM O.3276 1938 S/42 sn 1872h, ----KM N3580 1938 S/42 sn 148i, ----KM N2940 1938 S/42 sn 164i, ----KM N2442 1938,S/42, sn 231i, SE/63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 586i, ----KM N2676 1938 S/42 sn 596i, ----KM N3141 1938 S42, sn 1038i, SE/63, matching mag SE63 1938 S/42, sn 1049i, SE/83, SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn1083i, SE/63, SE/63, MTP KM N2936 1938 S/42 sn 1137i, ----KM N2861 1938 S/42 sn 1376i, ----KM N3431 1938 S/42 sn 1614i, ----KM N3286 1938 S/42 sn 1618i, ----KM N3289 1938 S/42 sn 1632i, ----KM N3342 1938 S/42 sn 1862i, ----KM N3302 1938 S/42, sn 2224i,---- KM N2955 1938 S/42, sn 2197i, SE/63, SE/63, N/2911, 1938 S/42, sn 2474i,---- KM N2988 1938 S/42, sn 2482i, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 2498i, SE/63, SE/63, MTP KM O.3705 (refinished) 1938 S/42, sn 2597i,---- KM N3993 1938 S/42, sn 2661i,---- KM N3661 1938 S/42, sn 4688i, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 4840i, SE83 (SE?3 smaller size)MTP (2 mat. mags SE83) 1938 S/42, sn 5912 i, SE/63 SE/63; mag: 5912 / i / + / SE/63 1938 S/42, sn 6796i, SE63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 6834i,---- KM N3690 1938 S/42, sn 7289i, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938, S/42, sn 7743i (or b?) Delete? 1938 S/42, sn 9740i,---- KM N3726 1938 S/42, sn 9955i,---- KM N4072 1938 S/42, sn 9988i,---- KM N2646 1938 S/42, sn 1242k, SE63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 2737k, SE63 SE63,MTP magazine SE/83 1938 S/42 sn 5808k SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 7289k, ----KM O.3240 1938 S/42, sn 9307k, SE63 SE63,MTP matching magazine SE/63 1938 S/42, sn 1832L,---- KM N3342 1938 S/42, sn 1932L ,---- KM N3309 1938 S/42 sn 2037L SE63 SE63 MTP---- KM N3059 1938 S/42, sn 2060L,---- KM N3315 1938 S/42 sn 2390L, ----KM O.3024 1938 S/42, sn 2476L,---- KM N2458 1938 S/42 sn 2833L SE63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 3087L,---- KM N2468 1938 S/42, sn 4030L,---- KM N2986 1938 S/42, sn 6318L, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 8611L SE63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 9529L,---- KM N4005 1938 S/42, sn 9768L,---- KM N2729 1938 S/42, sn 9955L,---- KM N4070 1938 S/42, sn 36m,---- KM N2740 1938 S/42, sn 214m, SE/63 SE/63, KM N.2752, mag.829s SE/63, N 2397 1938 S/42, sn 567m,---- KM N3732 1938 S/42 sn 578m, ----KM O.3654 1938 S/42, sn 599m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP; KM N 4660 back strap 1938 S/42, sn 610m, ---- KM N4760 1938 S/42, sn 635m,---- KM N2738 1938 S/42, sn 717m,---- KM N2670 1938 S/42, sn 746m,---- KM N2531 1938 S/42, sn 769m,---- KM N4673 1938 S/42, sn 831m,---- KM N3628 1938 S/42, sn 1033m,---- KM N2809 1938 S/42 sn 1035m, ----KM O.3447 1938 S/42, sn 1042m,---- KM N2792 1938 S/42, sn 1074m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 1119m,---- KM N2565 1938 S/42 sn 1121m, ----KM O.3551 1938 S/42 sn 1193m, ----KM O.3490 1938 S/42, sn 1554m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP, 2 matching E/83 mags 1938 S/42, sn 2176m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP,---- KM N/2668 1938 S/42, sn 2634m SE/83 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 3797m SE/63(large) SE/63(small), 2 m mags SE/83 1938 S/42, sn 3483m, SE/83 SE/63 MTP mat. mag SE/83 1938,S/42, sn 7492m, SE/63 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 8098 m, SE83 SE63, MTP matched mag SE 83 rear frame hump. 1938 S/42, sn 9104m, SE83 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42 sn 9646m, ----KM O.3468 1938 S/42 sn 9750m, ----KM O.3558 1938 S/42, sn 9800m,---- KM N3591 1938 S/42 sn 75n E/83 E/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 80n, ---- KM N3424 1938 S/42, sn 593n, SE63(l) SE63(s) MTP, KM N3463 1938 S/42, sn 1043n, SE63 SE63 MTP, 2mm, Navy 0.3397 1938 S/42, sn 1142n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 1424n SE83 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 1838n, SE/83, SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 1872n,---- KM N3580 1938 S/42, sn 2286n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP; mg E/83 1938 S/42, sn 2654n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 3334n, SE/83 SE/63 MTP 2matched mags with SE/83. 1938 S/42, sn 3413n, SE/83 SE/63, MTP, two SE 83 matched mags. 1938 S/42, sn 4247n SE83 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 4797n SE83 SE63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 5146n SE/83 SE/63, matching mag . 1938 S/42 sn. 8822e bore gage: 8,82 (need acceptance stamps) Additional 1937 and 1938 serial numbers and descriptions of the right receiver acceptance stamps will help determining the transition from DE/63 to SW/63 and the transition from DE/63 to DE/83. This information would be greatly appreciated and reported on this Forum. Thanks Jan Last edited by Jan C Still; 03-07-2009 at 02:56 PM. |
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1938 S/42 sn 4688 i SE/63 SE/63 MTP Hope this helps, Bob M. |
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1937 S/42 SN# 8091a
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Thanks for the information. I have updated the list above. John Thanks, I can not be sure if 63 or 83. Perhaps the owner can look. Jan |
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Jan I have sent a request to the son of the owner to confirm the data for you... the gun is over 150 miles from me...and the owning vet no longer has eyes that can see things that small... I will let you know when and if I get the info. Sorry my hand wasn't so steady when I took this photo months ago...
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Thanks. I have updated the above list. Jan |
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1937 S/42, sn 1860 t, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
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Thanks for the information. Table updated. Jan |
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Serial no. 1166s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
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That must be a 1937 S/42, sn 1166s, DE/63 DE/63 MTP Thanks Jan |
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1937 S/42, sn 8044 q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP
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Thanks for the information. Table updated. Jan |
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Note: the "83' in the E/83 is not well formed and the "8" looks somewhat like a "6" slightly modified to forum an "8". See attached photograph. Shown is a SE/83 left and a SE63 right.
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Late 1937 S/42 150b. SE/63 SE/63 MTP (first SE/63 may also be an SE/83). |
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Thanks for the information. Table updated. There are reports similar to yours; that in the 1937-1938 "b" and "c" suffix range, it is difficult to determine the difference between the "63" and "83". Jan |
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Bad die Jan? An 8 or a 6 struck with a dull die would cause problems?
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Dies usually have small parts break off or wear down. The photo shown (1938 sn 2654)above definitley has the top loop of the "8" completed and I would estimate that it is a correct "8". The various photographs of magazines and right receiver stamps indicates original "8" stamps on the Lugers in the 1938 S/42, 599m to 2654n serial range. However, these "8"s are not well formed. They looks like a "6" that had the top loop completed to make the "8". Jan |
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1937 S/42, sn2322-q, DE/63 DE/63 MTP 1937 S/42, sn 4437-ns, SE/63 SE/63 MTP 1938 S/42, sn 7288-b, SE/83 SE/83 MTP On the 1938 its hard to tell 83 or 63, I can post a photo if you need it Jim
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Thanks for the data. Table updated. Photographs of your 1938 would be much appreciated. Jan |
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