Help identifying Luger (1914)

pazzo · 02-12-2007, 07:03 PM

hello everyone. i was just wondering if anyone can help me w/ the history of my Luger. it appears to be in pretty good condition. what do you think i could sell it for? i live in Vancouver, so i'm thinking in CAD. i've heard some prices from people around here, but i don't know the history so it's hard to verify.
thanks

Aaron · 02-12-2007, 07:29 PM

You have a very nice military Luger manufactured in 1914 by DWM. Does the magazine serial number match the pistol?

pazzo · 02-12-2007, 07:33 PM

it's hard to read, but i don't think so?

Steinar · 02-13-2007, 08:48 AM

Welcome to the forum Pazzo! It's a very nice Luger.
Can someone explain the BÃ?Â¶.31 (?) over the serial # on the barrel?

Lugerdoc · 02-13-2007, 10:16 AM

Morgan, Bohler Steel in Austria (the manufactor of barrel) hardness 31. TH

pazzo · 02-13-2007, 01:35 PM

thanks guys! any other info? someone once told me that it was made at Bohler Stahl under DWM in the early months of 1914? but that doesn't tell me enough. when i go to the main forums here, there's several classes of Luger's? which one does this fall into.
what would one like this sell for?

thanks

Edward Tinker · 02-13-2007, 01:55 PM

Vancouver, BC.... there is also a Vancouver Washington, just across from Portland, Oregon.

Bohler provided the barrels as a subcontractor, especially around 1914. DWM made the gun, using the barrels.

it is a military, in fact all dated (ww1) are military.

pazzo · 02-13-2007, 02:04 PM

oops. yep, that's Vancouver BC
*fixed*

Edward Tinker · 02-13-2007, 02:14 PM

A luger in Canada will go for a lot less than in the USA (from my estimation) and is why so many have been exported or parted out.

I would guess $800-$1200 US dollars if sold in the USA.

PS: I am originally from WA so that is why I said that, I should have put

after it

pazzo · 02-13-2007, 02:22 PM

interesting. i know a local guy who wants to trade some other guns for it, but i'm sure those guns value quite a bit more? another guy from Van. that i know recently sold his Luger (and according to him was in 'rougher' shape than mine) for $3000 CAD.
what determines the value of the Luger? is being made in 1914 beneficial, or are older/ newer Luger's more valuable? if that's the going price in the US, i'm better off selling it locally.

Edward Tinker · 02-13-2007, 02:38 PM

3000 CAD, either it was special or someone was an idiot. That is a lot of money to me.

You would have to search through the forum to understand all the variations and values.

Everyone hears of the $5000 kreighoff, and think theirs is worth that much. Most lugers are normal priced and I think $800-$1200 is still a lot of money. if you don't, then I would sell it for waht you can get out of it.

pazzo · 02-13-2007, 02:48 PM

sounds fair. i didn't think $3000, i honestly didn't know... when we got together and he told me the good news, i was like wtf, mine can't be worth that... maybe his was a special model?
but hey, if i can get $1200 that's ok. maybe i'm better off trading someone...

thanks

Pete Ebbink · 02-13-2007, 02:57 PM

Take a look at WWI DWM pricing over on the Simpson's site :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=1_7

As they are a retail dealer with shop, there prices can be 10-25% higher than normal sales pricing between fellow collectors.

pazzo · 02-13-2007, 02:58 PM

thanks Pete!!

02-12-2007, 07:03 PM	#1
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help identifying Luger (1914) hello everyone. i was just wondering if anyone can help me w/ the history of my Luger. it appears to be in pretty good condition. what do you think i could sell it for? i live in Vancouver, so i'm thinking in CAD. i've heard some prices from people around here, but i don't know the history so it's hard to verify. thanks

02-13-2007, 08:48 AM	#4
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Welcome to the forum Pazzo! It's a very nice Luger. Can someone explain the BÃ?Â¶.31 (?) over the serial # on the barrel? __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

02-13-2007, 10:16 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Morgan, Bohler Steel in Austria (the manufactor of barrel) hardness 31. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-13-2007, 01:55 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Vancouver, BC.... there is also a Vancouver Washington, just across from Portland, Oregon. Bohler provided the barrels as a subcontractor, especially around 1914. DWM made the gun, using the barrels. it is a military, in fact all dated (ww1) are military. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-13-2007, 02:38 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	3000 CAD, either it was special or someone was an idiot. That is a lot of money to me. You would have to search through the forum to understand all the variations and values. Everyone hears of the $5000 kreighoff, and think theirs is worth that much. Most lugers are normal priced and I think $800-$1200 is still a lot of money. if you don't, then I would sell it for waht you can get out of it. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

02-12-2007, 07:29 PM	#2
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	You have a very nice military Luger manufactured in 1914 by DWM. Does the magazine serial number match the pistol?

02-12-2007, 07:33 PM	#3
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it's hard to read, but i don't think so?

02-13-2007, 01:35 PM	#6
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks guys! any other info? someone once told me that it was made at Bohler Stahl under DWM in the early months of 1914? but that doesn't tell me enough. when i go to the main forums here, there's several classes of Luger's? which one does this fall into. what would one like this sell for? thanks

02-13-2007, 02:04 PM	#8
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oops. yep, that's Vancouver BC fixed

02-13-2007, 02:14 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	A luger in Canada will go for a lot less than in the USA (from my estimation) and is why so many have been exported or parted out. I would guess $800-$1200 US dollars if sold in the USA. PS: I am originally from WA so that is why I said that, I should have put after it

02-13-2007, 02:22 PM	#10
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	interesting. i know a local guy who wants to trade some other guns for it, but i'm sure those guns value quite a bit more? another guy from Van. that i know recently sold his Luger (and according to him was in 'rougher' shape than mine) for $3000 CAD. what determines the value of the Luger? is being made in 1914 beneficial, or are older/ newer Luger's more valuable? if that's the going price in the US, i'm better off selling it locally.

02-13-2007, 02:48 PM	#12
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sounds fair. i didn't think $3000, i honestly didn't know... when we got together and he told me the good news, i was like wtf, mine can't be worth that... maybe his was a special model? but hey, if i can get $1200 that's ok. maybe i'm better off trading someone... thanks

02-13-2007, 02:57 PM	#13
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Take a look at WWI DWM pricing over on the Simpson's site : http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=1_7 As they are a retail dealer with shop, there prices can be 10-25% higher than normal sales pricing between fellow collectors.

02-13-2007, 02:58 PM	#14
pazzo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks Pete!!