What is this Luger

Savage11 · 12-27-2017, 08:45 PM

I have never seen anything like it, looks fake.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/775326...918-9mm-luger-

Norme · 12-27-2017, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage11

I have never seen anything like it, looks fake.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/775326...918-9mm-luger-

Ya think?

Savage11 · 12-27-2017, 09:00 PM

Lol, it was posted on another forum. But, but, it is all matching says the seller, well, except the grips. What is it exactly?

Savage11 · 12-27-2017, 09:07 PM

I wonder if the seller would be willing to trade for a minty NIB water pistol from odd lots?

Edward Tinker · 12-27-2017, 09:19 PM

I think one like it was recently on Jan Stills forum and it was a toy

DavidJayUden · 12-27-2017, 09:29 PM

Looks like a refinished Luger with some barrel weight attachment and target grips.
What am I missing?
dju

Edward Tinker · 12-27-2017, 09:34 PM

On Jan’s forum a new member had a number of larger photos

Since we told him it was pot metal, hopefully he isn’t the one selling...

sheepherder · 12-27-2017, 10:06 PM

We need to preserve this for our descendants.

Whatever it is, it has proof marks in the right place. The ejector looks strawed. The sideplate has a number stamped on it. The flat spring behind the sear has a lip on it, like a real Luger. The magazine release has a flat spring under it.

The safety lever is strange. Checkered, not serrated. And cylindrical, not flat. I don't see a spring behind the trigger.

Lots of detail. If I had to guess, I'd say an MGC Modelgun from the 60's. They were very realistic, and functioned exactly like a real Luger, even to loading and ejecting fake cartridges, which contained a primer and a powder charge but only produced a flash, smoke, and a bang. The barrel was blocked so a real cartridge wouldn't fire. And the firing pin was in the chamber, and the primer was in the middle of the 'cartridge'.

I haven't read the thread on Still's forum. Does anyone have the link???

Major Tom · 12-28-2017, 08:33 AM

I think I need one! 8-)

Savage11 · 12-28-2017, 06:07 PM

Very interesting to say-the-least! I looked at MGS guns and couldn't find an exact match. The front sight/weight is weird.

Savage11 · 12-30-2017, 07:11 AM

The item has been deactivated by the seller, no one can contact him.

Savage11 · 12-30-2017, 09:44 AM

Anyone solve this mystery?

JTD · 12-30-2017, 10:27 AM

I think it is an old attempt at a target luger.

lexguns · 01-05-2018, 04:56 PM

I am the proud new owner of this pistol. The seller traded it at our guns shop, and I initially though it was a fake...

But, to clear some things up:

It has the right markings, best as I can tell.

It shoots. And it shoots great.

PLEASE, let me know what info and pictures you guys need... I'd love to get this thing identified, fake or not.

Note: we took it on a trade, and at the trade value, we thought even if it was a fake, it was worth it. My feelings aren't going to be hurt; I just want to know what I have. Still a cool piece!

DonVoigt · 01-05-2018, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lexguns

I am the proud new owner of this pistol. The seller traded it at our guns shop, and I initially though it was a fake...

But, to clear some things up:

It has the right markings, best as I can tell.

It shoots. And it shoots great.

PLEASE, let me know what info and pictures you guys need... I'd love to get this thing identified, fake or not.

Note: we took it on a trade, and at the trade value, we thought even if it was a fake, it was worth it. My feelings aren't going to be hurt; I just want to know what I have. Still a cool piece!

Start your own thread with good pictures and ask any questions there. Otherwise we will get confused really quickly.

lexguns · 01-05-2018, 07:11 PM

Thanks,

Just thought I'd try here first, since it's the exact pistol in the original post.

Some forums are funny about new threads.

I will post some good pics in a new one, though!

sheepherder · 01-05-2018, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lexguns

I will post some good pics in a new one, though!

And please, remove those grips. They make my eyes hurt...

1994Stoeger · 01-06-2018, 02:02 PM

The grips look like a stoned woodworker's wet dream, but from the shape of them and if your hand is the right size, probably feels pretty comfortable. The fat girl you don't want to be seen with scenario....

The finish looks like parkerizing... As for the block under the barrel, I am guessing some kind of counterweight (again, imagined by the aforementioned stoned woodworker).

12-27-2017, 08:45 PM	#1
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	What is this Luger I have never seen anything like it, looks fake. http://www.armslist.com/posts/775326...918-9mm-luger-

12-27-2017, 10:06 PM	#8
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	We need to preserve this for our descendants. Whatever it is, it has proof marks in the right place. The ejector looks strawed. The sideplate has a number stamped on it. The flat spring behind the sear has a lip on it, like a real Luger. The magazine release has a flat spring under it. The safety lever is strange. Checkered, not serrated. And cylindrical, not flat. I don't see a spring behind the trigger. Lots of detail. If I had to guess, I'd say an MGC Modelgun from the 60's. They were very realistic, and functioned exactly like a real Luger, even to loading and ejecting fake cartridges, which contained a primer and a powder charge but only produced a flash, smoke, and a bang. The barrel was blocked so a real cartridge wouldn't fire. And the firing pin was in the chamber, and the primer was in the middle of the 'cartridge'. I haven't read the thread on Still's forum. Does anyone have the link??? Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

12-28-2017, 08:33 AM	#9
Major Tom User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: S.E. Iowa Posts: 484 Thanks: 533 Thanked 227 Times in 124 Posts	I think I need one! 8-) __________________ I Build Custom Pistol Boxes

01-05-2018, 04:56 PM	#14
lexguns New User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Funny I am the proud new owner of this pistol. The seller traded it at our guns shop, and I initially though it was a fake... But, to clear some things up: It has the right markings, best as I can tell. It shoots. And it shoots great. PLEASE, let me know what info and pictures you guys need... I'd love to get this thing identified, fake or not. Note: we took it on a trade, and at the trade value, we thought even if it was a fake, it was worth it. My feelings aren't going to be hurt; I just want to know what I have. Still a cool piece!

12-27-2017, 09:00 PM	#3
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	Lol, it was posted on another forum. But, but, it is all matching says the seller, well, except the grips. What is it exactly?

12-27-2017, 09:07 PM	#4
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	I wonder if the seller would be willing to trade for a minty NIB water pistol from odd lots?

12-27-2017, 09:19 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	I think one like it was recently on Jan Stills forum and it was a toy

12-27-2017, 09:29 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Looks like a refinished Luger with some barrel weight attachment and target grips. What am I missing? dju

12-27-2017, 09:34 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	On Jan’s forum a new member had a number of larger photos Since we told him it was pot metal, hopefully he isn’t the one selling...

12-28-2017, 06:07 PM	#10
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	Very interesting to say-the-least! I looked at MGS guns and couldn't find an exact match. The front sight/weight is weird.

12-30-2017, 07:11 AM	#11
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	The item has been deactivated by the seller, no one can contact him.

12-30-2017, 09:44 AM	#12
Savage11 User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 54 Thanks: 26 Thanked 27 Times in 13 Posts	Anyone solve this mystery?

12-30-2017, 10:27 AM	#13
JTD User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Posts: 425 Thanks: 217 Thanked 408 Times in 149 Posts	I think it is an old attempt at a target luger.

01-05-2018, 07:11 PM	#16
lexguns New User Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks, Just thought I'd try here first, since it's the exact pistol in the original post. Some forums are funny about new threads. I will post some good pics in a new one, though!

01-06-2018, 02:02 PM	#18
1994Stoeger User Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	The grips look like a stoned woodworker's wet dream, but from the shape of them and if your hand is the right size, probably feels pretty comfortable. The fat girl you don't want to be seen with scenario.... The finish looks like parkerizing... As for the block under the barrel, I am guessing some kind of counterweight (again, imagined by the aforementioned stoned woodworker).