FAQ want to update

Edward Tinker · 08-07-2014, 01:56 PM

Please read over the FAQ and then tell me here or via PM or email what we should add for new collectors?

Questions that get asked etc, often, I will post and probably link to the item How to ID a Luger that was made.

Ed

4 Scale · 11-28-2014, 09:23 AM

One thing that would help me, is what are the best books for a new collector?

As a neophyte to the world of Luger collecting, I'm looking for very basic information and photos. I've read the Davis catalog book; while I understand it may have inaccuracies I found it fascinating and a useful overall orientation. I have "Luger Tips" on order. At this stage I feel I don't quite know enough to decide which part of the production history I am most interested in.

Ron Wood · 11-28-2014, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4 Scale

One thing that would help me, is what are the best books for a new collector?

As a neophyte to the world of Luger collecting, I'm looking for very basic information and photos. I've read the Davis catalog book; while I understand it may have inaccuracies I found it fascinating and a useful overall orientation. I have "Luger Tips" on order. At this stage I feel I don't quite know enough to decide which part of the production history I am most interested in.

In my opinion, the very best basic reference for a new collector trying to identify models and determine what era(s) of Luger production are of most interest is Charles Kenyon's "Lugers at Random". It is an old publication, 1969, so some of the specific information is out dated/incorrect and the photos are black and white and not of the quality found in today's references. However it is large format, not expensive and offers a very comprehensive pictorial overview of most of the model variations spanning the entire duration of Luger production. It is a good start.
Ron

P.S. Sorry Ed, I am contributing to hijacking your thread. Please move my and "4 Scale" posts to their own thread. Thanks, Ron.

4 Scale · 11-29-2014, 11:10 AM

Thanks Ron, book ordered.

On the thread subject, some other questions to consider adding follow.

How do you clean/lubricate a collector luger for best long-term preservation?

What's the best way to store a collector Luger? In a case, open air? Any storage pitfalls to avoid?

Is it OK to dry-fire a Luger?

Thanks for a fascinating forum. I don't own any Luger(s) at the moment and am trying to educate myself before taking the plunge.

Ron Wood · 11-29-2014, 07:02 PM

Is it OK to dry-fire a Luger?...No

(emphasis added by ADMIN especially for new members/Luger owners. _JS)

Edward Tinker · 01-07-2015, 11:14 AM

I think the smart thing is to make this into a word document and then 'save' as a PDF - we don't lose photos then...

I am guilty of not spending time, have some very good suggestions...

mrerick · 01-17-2015, 11:05 AM

Q.1 Who has manufactured Lugers

Should have additions on the post war Interarms / Mauser activities (which originated from the plans and tooling provided by the Swiss, but which involved re-engineering and creation of a new production line - the fourth, which was not mentioned in the post), as well as the recent manufacturing that has taken place in the United States and modern Krieghoff. ADDED - EBT

Q.19 should also list the Interarms / Mauser tooling... This q/a may be redundant, especially if combined with Q.1.

Q.5. CAI's markings are fairly common and a reference to Century Arms might reduce inquiries. ADDED EBT

I can provide a pic of a 1921 VoPo with markings from "ECCSA PENN NJ" which refers to the now defunct "Crossroads Gun Shop" in Pennsauken, NJ. They brought in quite a few Lugers and P.38 pistols.

New:

Add a reference to Mauser's late "WR" stamp - thought to be Werks Revision. I have a pic posted at http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...werks+revision

Q.24 Some "42" date Lugers have no number stamped inside the trigger plate. Q.24 should be combined with Q.42 which has more details. - DONE EBT

Q. 27 we should standardize on "Hump" rather than "Bump"n DONE EBT

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Once new text is created for the revised FAQs, I can help by editing it, creating the PDF, and adding illustrations is you would like me to.

Marc

Edward Tinker · 01-17-2015, 11:11 PM

Added PDF, just a start of making it more current

Edward Tinker · 01-17-2015, 11:55 PM

ok, will swap this one in

thanks

Edward Tinker · 03-10-2015, 09:47 PM

Its 812 kb's....

christmas your dial up must be slow

sorry, we ran out of room - i.e. there were too many darn words - it literally ran out of how many words (10k plus)

I can look and see if there is a smaller version of pdf but likely not

Edward Tinker · 03-11-2015, 11:13 AM

well done Rich, will add

remind me if i forget, work is crazy right now

Edward Tinker · 07-16-2015, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

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I for one would appreciate the FAQ being restored to the site in online/HTML form; even if it means multiple posts...

Sorry Rich, I do this for free - and it takes me too much time to worry about multiple postings - where to break it etc. I am now saving it as a Word document and then into a PDF.

Anyway, sorry.... Will make this one as small as I can.

UPDATED 16 JULY 2015 - THERE ARE SOME PLACE HOLDERS IN THE INFO ADDE3D ABOVE.

Sergio Natali · 08-14-2015, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Please read over the FAQ and then tell me here or via PM or email what we should add for new collectors?

Questions that get asked etc, often, I will post and probably link to the item How to ID a Luger that was made.

Ed

Ed

After all these answers I bet now you're wondering WHY why why? did you ask that question!

No, jokes apart, your question was absolutely right, but, in my opinion, perhaps we shouldn't expect to find ALL our answers in the FAQ of the site.
Thanks again for your efforts.

Rgds

Sergio

Edward Tinker · 03-06-2016, 10:51 PM

many items added - will make into pdf in a few minutes

It actually needs to be gone over and items combined and improved

cirelaw · 03-06-2016, 11:07 PM

A Gold Mine!!

mrerick · 03-23-2016, 02:43 PM

Revision of FAQs in Progress!

(Moved to a new thread...)

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=35479

cirelaw · 03-23-2016, 02:55 PM

Brilliant Work!!!!It answers questions that even I've had for years! Thank You!!! Eric

mrerick · 04-05-2016, 09:14 PM

New April 24, 2016 update is posted at:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=35479

cirelaw · 04-05-2016, 09:35 PM

Perfect, Thank You Forever!!!!! Eric

sheepherder · 10-28-2016, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrerick

New April 24, 2016 update is posted at:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=35479

Marc, I have a question about the 6 May 2016 version of the PDF FAQ -

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

I needed to print out a page on the Revisions Commission stamp, and my HP Officejet 7210 could not print any of the PDF pages in Portrait form, only Landscape, despite my trying different options.

Is this how you intended the FAQ to be read/printed???

08-07-2014, 01:56 PM	#1
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	FAQ want to update Please read over the FAQ and then tell me here or via PM or email what we should add for new collectors? Questions that get asked etc, often, I will post and probably link to the item How to ID a Luger that was made. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-29-2014, 07:02 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	Is it OK to dry-fire a Luger?...No (emphasis added by ADMIN especially for new members/Luger owners. _JS) __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-17-2015, 11:05 AM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Q.1 Who has manufactured Lugers Should have additions on the post war Interarms / Mauser activities (which originated from the plans and tooling provided by the Swiss, but which involved re-engineering and creation of a new production line - the fourth, which was not mentioned in the post), as well as the recent manufacturing that has taken place in the United States and modern Krieghoff. ADDED - EBT Q.19 should also list the Interarms / Mauser tooling... This q/a may be redundant, especially if combined with Q.1. Q.5. CAI's markings are fairly common and a reference to Century Arms might reduce inquiries. ADDED EBT I can provide a pic of a 1921 VoPo with markings from "ECCSA PENN NJ" which refers to the now defunct "Crossroads Gun Shop" in Pennsauken, NJ. They brought in quite a few Lugers and P.38 pistols. New: Add a reference to Mauser's late "WR" stamp - thought to be Werks Revision. I have a pic posted at http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...werks+revision Q.24 Some "42" date Lugers have no number stamped inside the trigger plate. Q.24 should be combined with Q.42 which has more details. - DONE EBT Q. 27 we should standardize on "Hump" rather than "Bump"n DONE EBT - - - - - - - Once new text is created for the revised FAQs, I can help by editing it, creating the PDF, and adding illustrations is you would like me to. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war. Last edited by Edward Tinker; 03-06-2016 at 10:43 PM.

03-23-2016, 02:43 PM	#16
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Revision of FAQs in Progress! (Moved to a new thread...) http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=35479 __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-05-2016, 09:14 PM	#18
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	New April 24, 2016 update is posted at: http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=35479 __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-28-2014, 09:23 AM	#2
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	One thing that would help me, is what are the best books for a new collector? As a neophyte to the world of Luger collecting, I'm looking for very basic information and photos. I've read the Davis catalog book; while I understand it may have inaccuracies I found it fascinating and a useful overall orientation. I have "Luger Tips" on order. At this stage I feel I don't quite know enough to decide which part of the production history I am most interested in.

11-29-2014, 11:10 AM	#4
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	Thanks Ron, book ordered. On the thread subject, some other questions to consider adding follow. How do you clean/lubricate a collector luger for best long-term preservation? What's the best way to store a collector Luger? In a case, open air? Any storage pitfalls to avoid? Is it OK to dry-fire a Luger? Thanks for a fascinating forum. I don't own any Luger(s) at the moment and am trying to educate myself before taking the plunge.

01-07-2015, 11:14 AM	#6
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	I think the smart thing is to make this into a word document and then 'save' as a PDF - we don't lose photos then... I am guilty of not spending time, have some very good suggestions...

01-17-2015, 11:11 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Added PDF, just a start of making it more current

01-17-2015, 11:55 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	ok, will swap this one in thanks

03-10-2015, 09:47 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Its 812 kb's.... christmas your dial up must be slow sorry, we ran out of room - i.e. there were too many darn words - it literally ran out of how many words (10k plus) I can look and see if there is a smaller version of pdf but likely not

03-11-2015, 11:13 AM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	well done Rich, will add remind me if i forget, work is crazy right now

03-06-2016, 10:51 PM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	many items added - will make into pdf in a few minutes It actually needs to be gone over and items combined and improved

03-06-2016, 11:07 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A Gold Mine!!

03-23-2016, 02:55 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Brilliant Work!!!!It answers questions that even I've had for years! Thank You!!! Eric

04-05-2016, 09:35 PM	#19
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Perfect, Thank You Forever!!!!! Eric