Opinions Wanted

ratdog · 08-23-2004, 05:27 AM

I would like it if anyone sees something with this pistol that doesn't look right. I want to purchase it, but due to the terms if it is not a correct gun I am stuck with it. Any opinions will be heard, thanks. Go to "Old Owners Corner", then find "Kyrie", then the "1940 Mauser". Thanks...................Bruce

John Sabato · 08-23-2004, 09:47 AM

Bruce,

I can sum up my opinion on this gun with only 4 words:

WISH IT WERE MINE.

Herb · 08-23-2004, 01:23 PM

Ok, I give up, where the heck is the "Old Owners Corner'?

John Sabato · 08-23-2004, 01:54 PM

Herb, you have to go to the LUGERFORUM HOME PAGE... (Link at the bottom of this page) and the link is on the left...

The "Old Owner's Corner" is a remnant of a previous incarnation of the software used for the forum and contains photos of member guns in the same manner as we currently use the Member Gallery today...

Unfortunately many of our members that are new in the last couple of years enter the "discussion pages" directly and have no knowledge that we even HAVE a homepage... where there is a very neat animation of the Luger functioning...

Herb · 08-23-2004, 02:19 PM

John, no such entry on the page that loads for me--
erforum.com
Message Board
Search Old Board
Member Gallery
Upload Photos
Rogues Gallery History of the Luger Technical Information
Luger Videos
General Information
this is what is there.

John Sabato · 08-23-2004, 02:34 PM

Herb, it looks to me like like you have your screen resolution set very low... try bumping it up to 1024x768 and let me know if you can see the link...

in the mean time... here is direct link to that page:

http://www.lugerforum.com/lugerowner2.html

ratdog · 08-23-2004, 04:01 PM

The problem with the buying of this pistol is there is no inspection period. All sales are final. Now does it look attractive?!?!?!

John Sabato · 08-23-2004, 04:22 PM

Ratdog,

Kyrie has a stellar reputation in the collector community...

but I know that you only live a couple of hours from Northern Virginia... if you have reservations about what you are buying, make arrangements to drive down and see the gun...

My opinion hasn't changed, but the size of my discretionary bankroll prohibits me from relieving you of the anquish of the decision... I simply can't afford it...

Herb · 08-23-2004, 04:34 PM

John, that did it, the info is there now but the print is too small and the toolbar went south somewhere off the screen, I hope I can get it back. That's a good looking Luger Kyrie, but like you say no returns, I'd be suspicious.

minigun · 08-24-2004, 12:18 AM

Well, there are a many people selling their guns that don't want the hassel of going through the trouble of selling the gun, shipping the gun, getting the payment and then having to wait to see if someone still wants it once they get it.

I totally understand the "sales final" warning from a seller. I'm sure he can send you pics, but I know it's not like actually getting to look at everything first hand.

I saw this Luger too and the only thing I see that probably didn't belong on the gun originally was the white painted lettering. But, I'm not that knowledgeable on Lugers (I'm just learning on them actually) so who knows. Just ask him and make sure all the numbers match and what not.

ratdog · 08-24-2004, 05:35 AM

Mini,
The white is done for photo "enhancement" of all stampings. Probably already wiped off from the taking of the original pics..............B

ratdog · 08-25-2004, 05:26 AM

I was attempting to buy this from the seller, asking questions and gathering info. Seller also was willing to help me buy it over a 30 day period. Only problem, to me, was the "as is" clause, no inspection period. I wrote to him asking for better pics and he wrote back informing me the gun was now on Auction Arms. Oh well, wonder if it's "as is" on there, seller seems to have left that out of the description........................B

Edward Tinker · 08-25-2004, 07:09 AM

Well, I guess the best thing is to find a gun locally that you can physically look at. If you don't feel comfortble with a sale, then don't buy?

the gunman · 08-25-2004, 10:35 AM

hi Ratdog I have bought from Kyrie. His items are as described. Very Honest man to do business with. I hope to buy more from this wonderful gentleman.

policeluger · 08-25-2004, 11:37 AM

ratdog...there are plenty of sellers who will offer a 3 to 5 day inspection, Shattuck/Bessler/River Bend/Simpson. Morris, everone on Auction Arms, LugerDoc, me, Ed Tinker I'm sure, just look around, you'll find the gun you want and within that comfort zone of return rights.

Navy · 08-25-2004, 05:43 PM

Ratdog et al,

Kyrie (Larry to those who know him) is a genuine prince among pygmies; he would rather be boiled in oil than misrepresent, boost or otherwise fudge on a gun deal. We have been acquaintences for quite some time and he is one of the few people I know who I trust 100%.

Tom A.

08-23-2004, 05:27 AM	#1
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Opinions Wanted I would like it if anyone sees something with this pistol that doesn't look right. I want to purchase it, but due to the terms if it is not a correct gun I am stuck with it. Any opinions will be heard, thanks. Go to "Old Owners Corner", then find "Kyrie", then the "1940 Mauser". Thanks...................Bruce

08-23-2004, 09:47 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Bruce, I can sum up my opinion on this gun with only 4 words: WISH IT WERE MINE. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-23-2004, 01:23 PM	#3
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ok, I give up, where the heck is the "Old Owners Corner'? __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-23-2004, 01:54 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Herb, you have to go to the LUGERFORUM HOME PAGE... (Link at the bottom of this page) and the link is on the left... The "Old Owner's Corner" is a remnant of a previous incarnation of the software used for the forum and contains photos of member guns in the same manner as we currently use the Member Gallery today... Unfortunately many of our members that are new in the last couple of years enter the "discussion pages" directly and have no knowledge that we even HAVE a homepage... where there is a very neat animation of the Luger functioning... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-23-2004, 02:19 PM	#5
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	John, no such entry on the page that loads for me-- erforum.com Message Board Search Old Board Member Gallery Upload Photos Rogues Gallery History of the Luger Technical Information Luger Videos General Information this is what is there. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-23-2004, 02:34 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Herb, it looks to me like like you have your screen resolution set very low... try bumping it up to 1024x768 and let me know if you can see the link... in the mean time... here is direct link to that page: http://www.lugerforum.com/lugerowner2.html __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-23-2004, 04:01 PM	#7
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The problem with the buying of this pistol is there is no inspection period. All sales are final. Now does it look attractive?!?!?!

08-23-2004, 04:22 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,150 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Ratdog, Kyrie has a stellar reputation in the collector community... but I know that you only live a couple of hours from Northern Virginia... if you have reservations about what you are buying, make arrangements to drive down and see the gun... My opinion hasn't changed, but the size of my discretionary bankroll prohibits me from relieving you of the anquish of the decision... I simply can't afford it... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-23-2004, 04:34 PM	#9
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	John, that did it, the info is there now but the print is too small and the toolbar went south somewhere off the screen, I hope I can get it back. That's a good looking Luger Kyrie, but like you say no returns, I'd be suspicious. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-24-2004, 12:18 AM	#10
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Well, there are a many people selling their guns that don't want the hassel of going through the trouble of selling the gun, shipping the gun, getting the payment and then having to wait to see if someone still wants it once they get it. I totally understand the "sales final" warning from a seller. I'm sure he can send you pics, but I know it's not like actually getting to look at everything first hand. I saw this Luger too and the only thing I see that probably didn't belong on the gun originally was the white painted lettering. But, I'm not that knowledgeable on Lugers (I'm just learning on them actually) so who knows. Just ask him and make sure all the numbers match and what not.

08-24-2004, 05:35 AM	#11
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mini, The white is done for photo "enhancement" of all stampings. Probably already wiped off from the taking of the original pics..............B

08-25-2004, 05:26 AM	#12
ratdog User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was attempting to buy this from the seller, asking questions and gathering info. Seller also was willing to help me buy it over a 30 day period. Only problem, to me, was the "as is" clause, no inspection period. I wrote to him asking for better pics and he wrote back informing me the gun was now on Auction Arms. Oh well, wonder if it's "as is" on there, seller seems to have left that out of the description........................B

08-25-2004, 07:09 AM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Well, I guess the best thing is to find a gun locally that you can physically look at. If you don't feel comfortble with a sale, then don't buy? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-25-2004, 10:35 AM	#14
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	hi Ratdog I have bought from Kyrie. His items are as described. Very Honest man to do business with. I hope to buy more from this wonderful gentleman.

08-25-2004, 11:37 AM	#15
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	ratdog...there are plenty of sellers who will offer a 3 to 5 day inspection, Shattuck/Bessler/River Bend/Simpson. Morris, everone on Auction Arms, LugerDoc, me, Ed Tinker I'm sure, just look around, you'll find the gun you want and within that comfort zone of return rights.

08-25-2004, 05:43 PM	#16
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Ratdog et al, Kyrie (Larry to those who know him) is a genuine prince among pygmies; he would rather be boiled in oil than misrepresent, boost or otherwise fudge on a gun deal. We have been acquaintences for quite some time and he is one of the few people I know who I trust 100%. Tom A.