Luger Display boards

Lugers down under · 11-16-2002, 02:06 AM

If anyone is interested, I have redone my Luger display boards to include the holsters.
The first display board is 1910 to 1942 Military Lugers

The second display board is of Naval Lugers, Artillery and contract Lugers (a few)

I hope they might be of interest. All but one were purchased in New Zealand.

Kindest regards

Murray

lugercollector · 11-16-2002, 08:08 AM

Hey Murray....lovely collection!!!!bet that took some hard work and patience putting that lot together.....do you have a favorite gun??? were many of them vet bringbacks??....very nice!!!!.....Peter..

Greg G · 11-16-2002, 09:50 AM

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Thor · 11-16-2002, 10:09 AM

WOWOWOWOWO!!!!!!!!
Multiple hammer hits for that WONDERFUL display! That is stunning!! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" />

Ron Wood · 11-16-2002, 10:47 AM

I am much too dignified to be envious, so I think I'll just go eat worms. Marvelous collection.

Lugers down under · 11-16-2002, 12:01 PM

Thanks Guys,
I think my favourits would be the 1911 cased Erfurt, (not shown) The Persian Contract and my 1939 Mauser banner Police. I do not have a police issue holster however.
This collection has taken about 3 years to get to this stage. I did have a even better collection but in 1992 I was forced to sell it by our Inland Revenue Department, (same as your IRS)for a debt I did not owe. In 1999/2000 after a 10 year battle including two Parlimentary Select Committe hearings (same as a Senate Committe) and a Police investigation, I received a public apology on prime time television and compensation from our Government, so I have started my Luger collection again. I am coming to your fine shores on the 3rd December for the SAR show in Pheniox and hope to see some of you kind folk and buy you all a beer (or two).
Best wishes.
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" />

Russ · 11-16-2002, 02:40 PM

That is a very nice collection.

Russ

Edward Tinker · 11-16-2002, 07:58 PM

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Beauts sir, just beauts!

I like tobasco on my worms Ron [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

Marvin · 11-17-2002, 06:41 AM

Hello Murray,

Yes, WOW, WOW, WOW from me too! This is a very nice collection and a great display. One question; I noticed the cards you have by each rig, is this a photo of the pistol and a description? I have been thinking about making some type information card for my Lugers and show at local gun shows. One of the requirements is that an information card be displayed with each piece. Can you let us know what you have on your cards?

Marvin

Lugers down under · 11-17-2002, 09:31 PM

Hello Marvin,
The display cards I did on my computer. An example is shown below which is for my 1939 Mauser Banner.

The eagle in red I scanned of the front of Jan C Still's wonderful book (hope you don't mind Jan)
and I inserted it into a text box in MS WORD and then did another text box below with description, then printed it onto glossy paper, glued it to a hard cardboard back, trimmed it all to size and then mounted beside the guns.
Below is an Imperial period one for my 1911 Erfurt
which is a close up.

I trust this will be of some help

<img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" />

Brandon · 11-17-2002, 10:41 PM

Murray,
I can only say,I hope that one day I have a collection that is half as good as yours!!!

Ron & Ed, Mind if I join you for some worms?

Best Regards, Brandon

Ron Wood · 11-17-2002, 10:59 PM

Brandon,
Ed likes his with tabasco. I prefer mine with a good Merlot and perhaps a dash of Arby's horsey sauce. I'm sure your tastes are much more refined, but you are welcome to join us. <img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />

Lugers down under · 11-17-2002, 11:38 PM

Guys
You dont need to eat worms, why don't y'all come on down under here, view the Lugers, stay a while and have some of our white bait fritters with some New Zealand Merlot, the best in the world. And by the way, white bait look just like worms except that they have eyes, that look at you when you eat them, but boy! are they scrummy, especially with Tabasco!
Regards,

markm3 · 11-18-2002, 07:48 PM

This is all very nice, and most touching. Now, I'd like to know whether and when Lugers Down Under can be persuaded to sell one of those nifty artillery rigs. You see, given the choice between eating worms every time I look at those photos and raiding the piggy bank, I'd rather do the latter.

My gut tells me, however, to prepare for worms in a piquant sauce, for he ain't selling anytime soon. If the truth be told, I doubt I could part with a one of those beauties.

Excuse me, while I check on a new recipe for worm chateaubriand.....

MauserLugers · 11-18-2002, 08:05 PM

Hello Lugers down under,
The one Luger that you mention as getting outside New Zealand, would have been the 1939 E/F #340W would it, from Jack McCarl in AZ? I know Jack well and I'm just going from memory but I seem to remember that gun and serial number and the fact that it had a #3 HS matching magazine.
Am I correct or is my memory fading rather quickly? Nice display. Sincerely, Bill Munis

Lugers down under · 11-21-2002, 01:56 AM

Yes Bill, You are correct.
It did come from Capt. Jack McCarl. He helped me get my original collection valued in 1999/2000 as part of our compensation package from the IRD (IRS).He mentioned that he might have a Luger or two so we said, well, why don't we go to Arizona and buy one. So we did and wow! did we have some fun, Jack flew my wife Jan and I. all over the state. Took us to visit Ralph Shattuck (I thought I had died and gone to Luger heaven!) Saw some amazing collections and had a great time.
I had an e-mail from him yesterday, he will be at the SAR show week after next so I have arranged to meet him and Barry at the show. They are doing a SMG display together and Jack says he is going for Gold! I wounder if I will get a prize for 12 hour non stop flight just to go to a gun show.
You have a good memory Bill,
Kind regards
Murray.

evans · 11-21-2002, 02:44 AM

Hey, Murray,

Congratulations. As a member of a Dutch army 1940 reenactment group with KNIL Officers and arms I am interested to know if you have any Dutch lugers. Let me know if you have time amidts reading all the worhty congratulations for your excellent coillectiionbs

evans

minigun · 11-21-2002, 03:25 AM

Absolutely astounding!!!!

I just have one question about your laws.
What are they in regards to owning a handgun? I had heard of Australia's terrible gun laws, I guess New Zealand is a little more accepting then to guns??

Thanks....

Lugers down under · 11-21-2002, 12:35 PM

Thanks for the enquiry on New Zealand gun law.
Firstly we are not part of Austrailia and have a relation ship some what similar to that of the USA and Canada.
Our gun laws require any one who wants to own or deal in any type of gun (excluding air guns) to be licenced (class A).
This licence is for the person, not the gun. It weeds out those whom we all aggree should not own a fire arm.
Rifles and shot gun are not each licenced but revolvers, pistols, SMG's and machine guns are. To go pistol shooting you need a B licence and you need to be a member of a pistol club.
To own SMG's and MG's you need a C licence or collectors licence and you can own anything. Transfers between collectors can take a little as 5 minutes but usually as long as it takes you to go pick up the gun and cost nothing. One needs a "permit to procure" for a transfer or purchase and the Police issue them on demarned and on sight of your C licence.
To own assult rifles such as M16 and AK47 (in semi auto) you need a E licence and the gun must be registered. This came about due to public demarned. Assult rifles were used here extensivly for helicoptor deer recovery in our mountain country, but now the guys (and girls) just leap out of the choppers and catch them alive. (I jest not!)
To own a SLR , M16, AK47 etc in full auto you need a C or collectors licence. I have A,B,C,D, and E. The D is a gun dealers licence.

With regard to the Dutch Luger, I have one Vickers marked (Toggle)with grip safety made for the East Indies contract. It is not an excellent finish but is all matching (barrel frame toggle).
Most of the Guns that went to the East Indies were later arsenal reworked as this one is.
I saw another at a gunshow here very recently which was also Vickers and very good condition but had a dated receiver and mis matched barrel.
Best wishes.

mauro · 11-21-2002, 03:21 PM

Murray,
your collection is very impressive.

Thanks for sharing your beauty with us .

Ciao

11-16-2002, 02:06 AM	#1
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Luger Display boards If anyone is interested, I have redone my Luger display boards to include the holsters. The first display board is 1910 to 1942 Military Lugers The second display board is of Naval Lugers, Artillery and contract Lugers (a few) I hope they might be of interest. All but one were purchased in New Zealand. Kindest regards Murray __________________ Lugers down under

11-16-2002, 10:09 AM	#4
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	WOWOWOWOWO!!!!!!!! Multiple hammer hits for that WONDERFUL display! That is stunning!! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" /> __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

11-16-2002, 10:47 AM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,164 Times in 1,700 Posts	I am much too dignified to be envious, so I think I'll just go eat worms. Marvelous collection. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-16-2002, 12:01 PM	#6
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks Guys, I think my favourits would be the 1911 cased Erfurt, (not shown) The Persian Contract and my 1939 Mauser banner Police. I do not have a police issue holster however. This collection has taken about 3 years to get to this stage. I did have a even better collection but in 1992 I was forced to sell it by our Inland Revenue Department, (same as your IRS)for a debt I did not owe. In 1999/2000 after a 10 year battle including two Parlimentary Select Committe hearings (same as a Senate Committe) and a Police investigation, I received a public apology on prime time television and compensation from our Government, so I have started my Luger collection again. I am coming to your fine shores on the 3rd December for the SAR show in Pheniox and hope to see some of you kind folk and buy you all a beer (or two). Best wishes. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" /> __________________ Lugers down under

11-16-2002, 02:40 PM	#7
Russ User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Reading, PA. Posts: 628 Thanks: 2 Thanked 38 Times in 10 Posts	That is a very nice collection. Russ __________________ Livin the dream!!!!!!!!!!!

11-16-2002, 08:08 AM	#2
lugercollector Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: canada Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts	Hey Murray....lovely collection!!!!bet that took some hard work and patience putting that lot together.....do you have a favorite gun??? were many of them vet bringbacks??....very nice!!!!.....Peter..

11-16-2002, 09:50 AM	#3
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11-16-2002, 07:58 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,028 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	[img]eek.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img] Beauts sir, just beauts! I like tobasco on my worms Ron [img]biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-17-2002, 06:41 AM	#9
Marvin User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Upstate S.C. Posts: 1,132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello Murray, Yes, WOW, WOW, WOW from me too! This is a very nice collection and a great display. One question; I noticed the cards you have by each rig, is this a photo of the pistol and a description? I have been thinking about making some type information card for my Lugers and show at local gun shows. One of the requirements is that an information card be displayed with each piece. Can you let us know what you have on your cards? Marvin

11-17-2002, 09:31 PM	#10
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Hello Marvin, The display cards I did on my computer. An example is shown below which is for my 1939 Mauser Banner. The eagle in red I scanned of the front of Jan C Still's wonderful book (hope you don't mind Jan) and I inserted it into a text box in MS WORD and then did another text box below with description, then printed it onto glossy paper, glued it to a hard cardboard back, trimmed it all to size and then mounted beside the guns. Below is an Imperial period one for my 1911 Erfurt which is a close up. I trust this will be of some help <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" /> __________________ Lugers down under

11-17-2002, 10:41 PM	#11
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Murray, I can only say,I hope that one day I have a collection that is half as good as yours!!! Ron & Ed, Mind if I join you for some worms? Best Regards, Brandon

11-17-2002, 10:59 PM	#12
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,017 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 5,164 Times in 1,700 Posts	Brandon, Ed likes his with tabasco. I prefer mine with a good Merlot and perhaps a dash of Arby's horsey sauce. I'm sure your tastes are much more refined, but you are welcome to join us. <img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" /> __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

11-17-2002, 11:38 PM	#13
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Guys You dont need to eat worms, why don't y'all come on down under here, view the Lugers, stay a while and have some of our white bait fritters with some New Zealand Merlot, the best in the world. And by the way, white bait look just like worms except that they have eyes, that look at you when you eat them, but boy! are they scrummy, especially with Tabasco! Regards, __________________ Lugers down under

11-18-2002, 07:48 PM	#14
markm3 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is all very nice, and most touching. Now, I'd like to know whether and when Lugers Down Under can be persuaded to sell one of those nifty artillery rigs. You see, given the choice between eating worms every time I look at those photos and raiding the piggy bank, I'd rather do the latter. My gut tells me, however, to prepare for worms in a piquant sauce, for he ain't selling anytime soon. If the truth be told, I doubt I could part with a one of those beauties. Excuse me, while I check on a new recipe for worm chateaubriand..... __________________ markm3

11-18-2002, 08:05 PM	#15
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Hello Lugers down under, The one Luger that you mention as getting outside New Zealand, would have been the 1939 E/F #340W would it, from Jack McCarl in AZ? I know Jack well and I'm just going from memory but I seem to remember that gun and serial number and the fact that it had a #3 HS matching magazine. Am I correct or is my memory fading rather quickly? Nice display. Sincerely, Bill Munis

11-21-2002, 01:56 AM	#16
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Yes Bill, You are correct. It did come from Capt. Jack McCarl. He helped me get my original collection valued in 1999/2000 as part of our compensation package from the IRD (IRS).He mentioned that he might have a Luger or two so we said, well, why don't we go to Arizona and buy one. So we did and wow! did we have some fun, Jack flew my wife Jan and I. all over the state. Took us to visit Ralph Shattuck (I thought I had died and gone to Luger heaven!) Saw some amazing collections and had a great time. I had an e-mail from him yesterday, he will be at the SAR show week after next so I have arranged to meet him and Barry at the show. They are doing a SMG display together and Jack says he is going for Gold! I wounder if I will get a prize for 12 hour non stop flight just to go to a gun show. You have a good memory Bill, Kind regards Murray. __________________ Lugers down under

11-21-2002, 02:44 AM	#17
evans New User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: holland Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey, Murray, Congratulations. As a member of a Dutch army 1940 reenactment group with KNIL Officers and arms I am interested to know if you have any Dutch lugers. Let me know if you have time amidts reading all the worhty congratulations for your excellent coillectiionbs evans

11-21-2002, 03:25 AM	#18
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Absolutely astounding!!!! I just have one question about your laws. What are they in regards to owning a handgun? I had heard of Australia's terrible gun laws, I guess New Zealand is a little more accepting then to guns?? Thanks....

11-21-2002, 12:35 PM	#19
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for the enquiry on New Zealand gun law. Firstly we are not part of Austrailia and have a relation ship some what similar to that of the USA and Canada. Our gun laws require any one who wants to own or deal in any type of gun (excluding air guns) to be licenced (class A). This licence is for the person, not the gun. It weeds out those whom we all aggree should not own a fire arm. Rifles and shot gun are not each licenced but revolvers, pistols, SMG's and machine guns are. To go pistol shooting you need a B licence and you need to be a member of a pistol club. To own SMG's and MG's you need a C licence or collectors licence and you can own anything. Transfers between collectors can take a little as 5 minutes but usually as long as it takes you to go pick up the gun and cost nothing. One needs a "permit to procure" for a transfer or purchase and the Police issue them on demarned and on sight of your C licence. To own assult rifles such as M16 and AK47 (in semi auto) you need a E licence and the gun must be registered. This came about due to public demarned. Assult rifles were used here extensivly for helicoptor deer recovery in our mountain country, but now the guys (and girls) just leap out of the choppers and catch them alive. (I jest not!) To own a SLR , M16, AK47 etc in full auto you need a C or collectors licence. I have A,B,C,D, and E. The D is a gun dealers licence. With regard to the Dutch Luger, I have one Vickers marked (Toggle)with grip safety made for the East Indies contract. It is not an excellent finish but is all matching (barrel frame toggle). Most of the Guns that went to the East Indies were later arsenal reworked as this one is. I saw another at a gunshow here very recently which was also Vickers and very good condition but had a dated receiver and mis matched barrel. Best wishes. __________________ Lugers down under

11-21-2002, 03:21 PM	#20
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Murray, your collection is very impressive. Thanks for sharing your beauty with us . Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.