Red Nine C96

pgv1973 · 09-02-2010, 10:21 AM

Greetings all.

I know this a Luger forum but still I do read some C96 threads so please forgive this daring inquiry... I´ve been offered this nearly mint all matching Red Nine. Blue seems to be excellent...There is no stock available...

Since I am not an expert in C96s my concerns are as you may expect:

Original or reblue?
Estimated value?
Correct markings?

Thank you very much for your help...

Pablo

calibrator · 09-02-2010, 10:52 AM

Hello Pablo ! I'm NOT a Broomhandle expert either, however from the reasearch I've done before buying mine I've learned a few things. The presence of the 500 meter rear sight IS correct for an original 9mm variant (7.63mm sight was marked to 1000 meters and is the quickest sign that it's probably a re-bore). I also believe that the magazine follower is shaped differently for the 9mm. Could be the lighting and quality of your photos but the edges look a little "soft" like it was buffed, also the rear sight "ladder" should be in the "white", therefore refinished. Value, my guess $600-800 USD. Condition of the bolt stop and it's slot in the receiver is where most Brooms fail.
Go to www.1896mauser.com for good tech advice, but DO NOT visit the open forum section as it is infected. YMMV Joe

pgv1973 · 09-02-2010, 01:12 PM

Thanks Calibrator. From my research I also think that rear sight blade should be in the white. I have not held this C96 with my own hands so I cannot tell for sure but the edges look a little bit rounded also. Let's hold it on probation...

Pablo.

Lugerdoc · 09-03-2010, 09:56 AM

Pablo, In addition to the above, the grips appear to be repros (originals will have the full serial inside both sides) and the finish appears to be a hot dip, vise the original rust blue. The original Red 9s were in the own serial numbered range of 1 to 147xxx. TH

Thor · 11-24-2010, 11:24 AM

trigger, rear sight , locking bolt (outside of receiver at right rear), safety lever,extractor, should be fire blued. The rear sight then is polished white on top with the fire bluing remaining in the numbers, on both side, on bottom and on rear blade.

George Anderson · 11-24-2010, 04:14 PM

Looks original to me. Super clear close-up photos of left side Mauser proof and right side Military acceptance stamps will tell.

nukem556 · 11-24-2010, 04:36 PM

looks refinished...one area to scrutinize on C96s is where the top of the grips meet the frame...this area often has pitting (as does yours)... it appears the pits are blued over, original finish would show roughness and rusting in the pits

09-02-2010, 10:21 AM	#1
pgv1973 User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Asturias - Northern Spain Posts: 18 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Red Nine C96 Greetings all. I know this a Luger forum but still I do read some C96 threads so please forgive this daring inquiry... I´ve been offered this nearly mint all matching Red Nine. Blue seems to be excellent...There is no stock available... Since I am not an expert in C96s my concerns are as you may expect: Original or reblue? Estimated value? Correct markings? Thank you very much for your help... Pablo Attached Thumbnails __________________ AUDACES FORTUNAT IUVAT Fortune favors the bold

09-02-2010, 01:12 PM	#3
pgv1973 User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Asturias - Northern Spain Posts: 18 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Calibrator. From my research I also think that rear sight blade should be in the white. I have not held this C96 with my own hands so I cannot tell for sure but the edges look a little bit rounded also. Let's hold it on probation... Pablo. __________________ AUDACES FORTUNAT IUVAT Fortune favors the bold

09-03-2010, 09:56 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Pablo, In addition to the above, the grips appear to be repros (originals will have the full serial inside both sides) and the finish appears to be a hot dip, vise the original rust blue. The original Red 9s were in the own serial numbered range of 1 to 147xxx. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-24-2010, 11:24 AM	#5
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	trigger, rear sight , locking bolt (outside of receiver at right rear), safety lever,extractor, should be fire blued. The rear sight then is polished white on top with the fire bluing remaining in the numbers, on both side, on bottom and on rear blade. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

09-02-2010, 10:52 AM	#2
calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 242 Times in 92 Posts	Hello Pablo ! I'm NOT a Broomhandle expert either, however from the reasearch I've done before buying mine I've learned a few things. The presence of the 500 meter rear sight IS correct for an original 9mm variant (7.63mm sight was marked to 1000 meters and is the quickest sign that it's probably a re-bore). I also believe that the magazine follower is shaped differently for the 9mm. Could be the lighting and quality of your photos but the edges look a little "soft" like it was buffed, also the rear sight "ladder" should be in the "white", therefore refinished. Value, my guess $600-800 USD. Condition of the bolt stop and it's slot in the receiver is where most Brooms fail. Go to www.1896mauser.com for good tech advice, but DO NOT visit the open forum section as it is infected. YMMV Joe

11-24-2010, 04:14 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	Looks original to me. Super clear close-up photos of left side Mauser proof and right side Military acceptance stamps will tell.

11-24-2010, 04:36 PM	#7
nukem556 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 625 Thanks: 35 Thanked 168 Times in 107 Posts	looks refinished...one area to scrutinize on C96s is where the top of the grips meet the frame...this area often has pitting (as does yours)... it appears the pits are blued over, original finish would show roughness and rusting in the pits