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12-09-2005, 01:39 PM | #1 |
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MP-40 restoration source??
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Am closing the deal on a C&R MP-40. Gun is really neat, but the tube has very little finish remaining. Anyone know anybody licensed and able to restore an MP-40 like Thor does Lugers? Tom A |
12-12-2005, 09:41 AM | #2 |
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Tom, if my memory serves me correctly, (and it sometimes fails at this task) I think Jonathan Arthur Ciener does this type of restoration... The work I have seen him accomplish on M-16's is absolutely amazing...
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12-12-2005, 10:24 AM | #3 |
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Thanks John.
I thought Cierner was 100% suppressors and sub-caliber devices now...but will check into this. Tom A |
12-12-2005, 02:52 PM | #4 |
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Tom, you might also check at subguns.com... the folks there should be able to guide you to someone who is currently doing restorations on Class 3 items. Tom Bowers is the honcho for that board.
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Intersting situation.. As I understand, any licensed gunsmith can do this work FA or not.......... Can someone with an inside track shed any clarification on this???????
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12-14-2005, 11:09 AM | #6 |
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An "ordinary" Gunsmith CAN do this work, BUT only if the legal possessor (licensee) is physically present during the entire process, otherwise the gun must be legally transfered to the one doing the work... and that incurs the $200 tax unless they are a class 3 dealer or a Class 2 SOT.
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12-14-2005, 11:58 AM | #7 |
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BATFE's stance on the use of a Form 5 for repairs has changed as of 2000.
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.co...eratfform5.htm NO Transfer tax is incurred! DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS WASHINGTON, DC 20226 JAN 04 2000 901040:GS 5320/990519 Mr. XXXXXXX X. XXXXXXXX XXXXX X.X. XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXX, XX XXXXX Dear Mr. XXXXXXXX: This is in response to your letter dated December 15, 1999 asking whether the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) requires an ATF Form 5 for the repair of a National Firearms Act (NFA) firearm. We do not consider the conveyance of an NFA firearm for repair or gunsmithing to be a transfer as defined in the NFA. You may wish to refer to item 15 in the "Questions and Answers" section of ATF P 5300.4, Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide, for a discussion of this subject. An ATF Form 5 application is not required in this situation; however, we recommend that the repair or gunsmithing be documented in your records. Should additional information be needed, please contact ATF Specialist Gary Schaible at (202) 927-8330. Sincerely yours, [signature] Kent M Cousins Chief, National Firearms Act Branch --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would have recommended John or Stan Andrewski dba "Stan's Gunsmithing" to do that type of restoration, but unfortunately they are backlogged at least two years on the Melton suppressed MK5 Sterling & LUSA smg projects. As John suggested, try over at subguns.com NFA Board for advice. http://subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi Best Wishes for the Holidays! John
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Does this mean that since this firearm is C&R, and THOR is C&R Licensed that he could receive and restore this weapon and return it to Tom A without incurring the wrath of the BATFE? If, that can be substantiated, I think you have solved Tom's problem... providing that THOR would be willing to do this...
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Very interesting; very interesting indeed. Tom A. |
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"One need not be an SOT to have NFA weapons transferred to him for
repair. One does need to have a type 01 FFL to work as a gunsmith though." http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu...st/nfa_faq.txt I don't believe that a type 03 C&R ONLY... will take the place of the type 01 DEALER/gunsmith FFL, however!
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