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Engraving on German Luger
Have a DMW 9mm Luger with serial #2471 d (might be an a) with engraving on the front and rear of the butt frame. Would like to know what engraving means. Front shows III./J.R.5.6 Rear shows 3 K (K is much larger than the numbers), then an unusual symbol that looks like an old nail or spike, and then what appears to be an upside down 3.
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10-06-2017, 10:18 AM | #2 |
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Sounds like a unit mark. Can you post photos?
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10-06-2017, 10:18 AM | #3 |
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Pictures Bob, Pictures please.
Post them directly on the forum. Best taken outside on an overcast day, with no artificial flash or directed light. Make sure they are in sharp focus (use a tripod if possible to eliminate hand movement from making the subject out of focus), and do close-ups of all markings. You will be surprised just how much we can tell you about your Luger. Welcome to the Lugerforum.
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They are Reichswehr unit markings. III/J.R.5.6. - third Battalion, Infantry Regiment 5, weapon 6. Photos would help in interpreting the second marking.
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10-06-2017, 01:53 PM | #5 |
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http://forum.lugerforum.com/album.php?albumid=643
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Thanks for info! Sent pictures using this: http://forum.lugerforum.com/album.php?albumid=643
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The marking on the back strap is probably what is called a pre 1922 Reichswehr provisional unit marking indicating 3rd Company and weapon number.
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Thanks for reply. But you said earlier that markings on front strap indicated weapon # 6. So this engraving on back strap showing small 3, Large K, then some unknown mark, then upside down 3 would not correspond as a weapon number?? I think it must indicate something else?
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The back strap marking was provisional and was earlier.
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One more question. Serial Number on frame is 2471a. What year would that have been manufactured? Thank you!
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What is the date on the top of the chamber?
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Everything matches except the receiver. It obviously was replaced at some point by Mauser as it is stamped 1939 with a 42 on the left side. It is the reddish, plum color also. Assume gun was refurbished with new receiver in 1939? But, I'm curious when the frame and other parts were made. The toggle has DMW on it.
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The frame, if original to the receiver would have been made in 1939.
Since the frame with a Weimar marking obviously does not match the receiver, it is not possible to know when the frame was made. You must post pictures to go any farther with understanding what you have, right now we are just speculating.
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Luger Pictures from rstilley
Hi Don, here are 10 pics. 10 more to follow. Bob
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Luger pictures from rstilley
Don, Having trouble attaching pics due to size of file. Have to send a few at a time. More to follow.
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Don, More pics - more to follow.
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Luger pictures from ratilley
More pics.
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Luger pictures from rstilley
More pics
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