My 1916 DWM Luger

jncastillo87 · 01-26-2010, 06:56 PM

This is Luger my grandad brought back from the war ... He said he took this off of a german soldier. I am just looking for information on the gun .. how rare this model is .. the estimated value and so on .. I have done some research and have found a few things .. thanks for yalls time.

jamese · 01-27-2010, 07:04 AM

John,

It looks to be a standard later Military issued 1916 DWM with a relieved sear bar.
not sure what the marks are under the barrel above 8,82 marks. The finnish doesn't look that good in the photos and I would estimate its value around $1000 to $1200

Estimated production about 140,000 units

Jim

Lugerdoc · 01-27-2010, 10:30 AM

Your 1916 DWM WW1 military accepted luger appears to have a later unnumbered 9mm (8,83 land diameter) barrel installed, so would not be considered matching, even if all the other parts match, so with the less than collector grade finish, I'd say that $750 would be a fair retail price. TH

jncastillo87 · 01-27-2010, 07:34 PM

thanks for looking guys .. I was afraid that the barrel was put on from another gun at some point in its life .. It has not been touched since it has been in this country ... 60 years or so . .it must have happened over in germany at some point ... aint that a bitch

alvin · 01-27-2010, 08:51 PM

Is "Su25" a Spandau inspection stamp? (on barrel)

DavidJayUden · 01-27-2010, 10:01 PM

"it must have happened over in germany at some point ... aint that a bitch"

Not really, unless resale value is the bottom line. So now you know you have a family heirloom with a real story behind it, not some closet queen that never saw dirt or fired a shot at the "other guys".
dju

alvin · 01-27-2010, 10:24 PM

I would believe this barrel was installed by German. The finish matches the frame well, witness mark alignment is great, no wrench dent on barrel, and most important, no fake matching s/n on it and this "Su25" stamp does not boost anything. Supposed being an honest gun and used as a reference to judge the worksmanship quality of other rebarrelled guns. But it cannot talk....

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[Edit] Not shot anyone is good. But who knows. Some IJA swords coming with rust, nicks, broken tips etc.... thought on it might be used to chop something during the war makes me sick. So skipping those whenever possible although they are usually listed lower. Maybe should collect a few German ones.... German blades were decoration only. Personally, I don't appreciate guns "captured" from decomposed body either (like described by book "Foot Soldier"). But how can you tell.... by smell?

jncastillo87 · 02-01-2010, 06:37 PM

The reason I know it was taken off of a soldier is b/c my grandad told us it was .. I dont plan on getting rid of the gun at any point .. but more show it with his medals earned in the war .. purple heart and silver cross I believe .. I also have his GI jacket he left on the tank and it was shot to pieces .. he survived it all but the jacket is full of holes .. ( was not wearing it ) it would look good with the nazi flag he also brought home .. thanks for looking guys . I have learned alot from yall

01-26-2010, 06:56 PM	#1
jncastillo87 New User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My 1916 DWM Luger This is Luger my grandad brought back from the war ... He said he took this off of a german soldier. I am just looking for information on the gun .. how rare this model is .. the estimated value and so on .. I have done some research and have found a few things .. thanks for yalls time.

01-27-2010, 07:04 AM	#2
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	John, It looks to be a standard later Military issued 1916 DWM with a relieved sear bar. not sure what the marks are under the barrel above 8,82 marks. The finnish doesn't look that good in the photos and I would estimate its value around $1000 to $1200 Estimated production about 140,000 units Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

01-27-2010, 10:30 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Your 1916 DWM WW1 military accepted luger appears to have a later unnumbered 9mm (8,83 land diameter) barrel installed, so would not be considered matching, even if all the other parts match, so with the less than collector grade finish, I'd say that $750 would be a fair retail price. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-27-2010, 07:34 PM	#4
jncastillo87 New User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for looking guys .. I was afraid that the barrel was put on from another gun at some point in its life .. It has not been touched since it has been in this country ... 60 years or so . .it must have happened over in germany at some point ... aint that a bitch

01-27-2010, 08:51 PM	#5
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Is "Su25" a Spandau inspection stamp? (on barrel)

01-27-2010, 10:01 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	"it must have happened over in germany at some point ... aint that a bitch" Not really, unless resale value is the bottom line. So now you know you have a family heirloom with a real story behind it, not some closet queen that never saw dirt or fired a shot at the "other guys". dju

01-27-2010, 10:24 PM	#7
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	I would believe this barrel was installed by German. The finish matches the frame well, witness mark alignment is great, no wrench dent on barrel, and most important, no fake matching s/n on it and this "Su25" stamp does not boost anything. Supposed being an honest gun and used as a reference to judge the worksmanship quality of other rebarrelled guns. But it cannot talk.... ==== [Edit] Not shot anyone is good. But who knows. Some IJA swords coming with rust, nicks, broken tips etc.... thought on it might be used to chop something during the war makes me sick. So skipping those whenever possible although they are usually listed lower. Maybe should collect a few German ones.... German blades were decoration only. Personally, I don't appreciate guns "captured" from decomposed body either (like described by book "Foot Soldier"). But how can you tell.... by smell?

02-01-2010, 06:37 PM	#8
jncastillo87 New User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The reason I know it was taken off of a soldier is b/c my grandad told us it was .. I dont plan on getting rid of the gun at any point .. but more show it with his medals earned in the war .. purple heart and silver cross I believe .. I also have his GI jacket he left on the tank and it was shot to pieces .. he survived it all but the jacket is full of holes .. ( was not wearing it ) it would look good with the nazi flag he also brought home .. thanks for looking guys . I have learned alot from yall