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In the "Need info on a Portuguese Luger" thread, Norm asked for photos of 1900, 1906 and 1908 grips. I'm glad that Norm raised this topic because I am sure there are lots of new folks that aren't aware of the basic differences between "Old Model", "New Model" and grip safety vs. non-grip safety grips. So here are the photos Norm requested:
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Ron, Exc photos of the inside of these grips. You might also note the the checkering become courser after 1913 when the rear of the PO8 grips were extended to line up with the added stock lug. TH
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Regarding the 1900, would they look the same for a 1900 AE Test?
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Yes. A 1900 is a 1900, it doesn't matter what is on the chamber. The type of grip is determined by the configuration of the mainspring, and all 1900s have a flat mainspring.
After I posted this answer, I realized that the question that was being asked may not have been about the physical configuration of the grips but the markings. The purpose of the photos is to show how the grips are machined...the markings are another topic entirely.
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Ron, Excellent photography! Good lesson for my archives too. Thanks, Jerry
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Thanks Ron,
This should be a sticky. Mike C.
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As usual excellent information from the Master. Thanks. Bill
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Would it be too imposing to ask for the addition of photos of the external surface to show the finish quality over the few years as mass production increased at he cost of material and finish, Which appears to me to be quite evident as to grain quality and density and course tool marks remaining on the finished products? ![]() ViggoG |
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Ron,
Excellent photos of the grips. However,for comparison purposes, If the grips were positioned next to each other it would made comparison much easier. i.e. all three right grips next to each other and left grips next to each other so you don't have to scroll up and down looking at each detail. Tom ![]() |
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Can do guys, but not for a week or so. We're currently visiting our son in Boulder, CO, so I am away from my photo set up and graphics programs.
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I sent you a composite of Ron's grip photos...rights and lefts side-by-side. You can post it up if you like... |
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Ron,
thank you for the great pictures. If I ever break out that digital camera that I got myself for Christmas, I'll run out to your neck of the woods to learn how to do your high caliber of work. Now about your theory regarding the different sizes of the numbers on the bottom of the Borchardt magazines...just kidding. I do see the difference on the right grip of the 1900 vs the 1906. The left grip is pretty closely the same except for the very top, just above the cut out for the magazine release button. Is the view of the 1900 showing that wood has been removed in that area or is that camera lighting? I guess that what I am asking is the left grip the same for the 1900 and the 1906? Now the opposite is true between the 1906 and 1908 in that the right grips look identical. But the left grips are different as would be expected given the removal of the grip safety and maybe a change in the thumb safety. I guess that I will have to take a 1900 and a 1906 apart to really see why these changes were done. I will also take an Ideal set of grips to see how they compensated the metal back plate for the difference between the 1900 and the 1906, if there was an adjustment at all. Thanks Ron for the pictures and thank you Ed for the composite. Both you guys did yourselves proud. ![]() Big Norm |
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Hi,
I have a 1906 Am Eagle and would like to purchase replacement grips for it. Can you recommend a source? I have been watching GunbrokerAuction and haven't found any. Aldo35 |
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Joseph,
First try Tom Heller (Lugerdoc) for an original set of M1900 grips. If he doesn't have any, you might consider Hugh Clark, our resident Gripmeister. He can inlet/cut a pair of 1908 grips to fit the M1900 or M1906 w/grip safety.
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![]() ![]() If my memory serves me correctly (and this might be doubtful)...You got that hi-tech digital camera FOUR years ago... it's about time to break out the manual and read it, eh? We are all looking forward to the photos of your collection! I think we have been waitng for about a decade! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Kind regards, ![]() -John S |
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John, I email Big Norm every week or so.
And you should look at the time stamp, this entire thread is from 2007... Ed |
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Good work, Ron! Wish I could contribute to this form equally well.
Thank you, David |
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