Some Nice Navy Mausers

MarkC · 12-11-2004, 07:21 PM

Gentlemen,

Just got these out of a collection. I live a charmed life!

The gun on the left is a 3rd variation with a matched navy property marked mag (the serial number is listed in Jan Stills "Axis Pistols") and the gun on the right looks like a 1914/34 1st variation KM gun. The buckle is an officers KM.

Mark

lugerholsterrepair · 12-11-2004, 08:10 PM

Mark, WOW! What a couple of beauty's! There has to be an interesting story here...Jerry Burney

MarkC · 12-12-2004, 07:03 PM

Jerry,

There is not really an interesting story, I met a dealer who acquired part of the collection and bought it from him. The variation 1 was on the FGS website and it completed the 4 variations .... however the first variation was found within 1 day of getting the first 3 guns!

I suppose that is unusual?

Mark

Ron Smith · 12-12-2004, 10:13 PM

Mark,
Have you ever seen anything pertaining to why
1914s and early 1934s have the ser# stamped flush on the slide. While the later manufactures have the ser# stamped in a recess, milled in the slide? My Scandinavian Police 1934 is stamped flush, like the 1914s. Have been trying to find the reason for awhile now.

Ron

MarkC · 12-13-2004, 10:40 AM

Ron,

I haven't seen very much written on these guns at all! If you find any good information about the 1914 and 1934 Mausers, let me know.

Mark

Vlim · 12-14-2004, 01:18 PM

Mark,

Have you seen the 1913 Mauser advertisement I published here a while back?

The description reads:
'Latest Mauser selfloading pistols: Small pocket model with fixed barrel. Calibre 6.35 and 7.65mm, the last is available from january 1914 onwards.'

MarkC · 12-14-2004, 04:15 PM

Very Nice, thanks!

RockinWR · 12-14-2004, 11:03 PM

Ron/Mark,
* FWIW:
* Roy G. Pender III, Mauser Pocket Pistols 1910-1946, Pg. 143 states: At about S/N 500,000, a slot was milled in the slide to accept and better protect the S/N."
* Mr. Pender's book was copywrited in 1971; so, it is getting pretty "long in the tooth". A lot more research has been done, many more examples have been surfaced, & a lot has been discovered since that time. However, it still is a primary work due respect overall & about the only one devoted to Mauser pocket pistols exclusively.
* We do know the 1914/34 pistols represent a transition block which saw a number of changes made to the pistol and the manufacturing process.
* Roy goes on to say the "Scandanavian Police" pistols occupy a generous & non exclusive S/N range reported at that time as 475498 - 525081. Even within this specific variation which spans the 500k S/N, Scandanavian examples will be found with and w/out the milled slot for the S/N.
* Apparently, the Scandanavian Police pistols were imported into the U.S in a large block in 1967. The Importers obtained them from the firm W. Glaser of Zurich, Switzerland who would only comment that the pistols were bought from a "Scandanavian Police Dept. The variation had not been encountered in this country before that date per Mr. Pender.
* Hope this helps.
Respectfully,
Bob

Ron Smith · 01-06-2005, 09:57 AM

Bob,

Thanks for the Scandinavian info. Sorry I'm late responding, but I'm old!

Ron

12-11-2004, 07:21 PM	#1
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Some Nice Navy Mausers Gentlemen, Just got these out of a collection. I live a charmed life! The gun on the left is a 3rd variation with a matched navy property marked mag (the serial number is listed in Jan Stills "Axis Pistols") and the gun on the right looks like a 1914/34 1st variation KM gun. The buckle is an officers KM. Mark

12-11-2004, 08:10 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,922 Thanked 3,123 Times in 1,434 Posts	Mark, WOW! What a couple of beauty's! There has to be an interesting story here...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-12-2004, 10:13 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, Have you ever seen anything pertaining to why 1914s and early 1934s have the ser# stamped flush on the slide. While the later manufactures have the ser# stamped in a recess, milled in the slide? My Scandinavian Police 1934 is stamped flush, like the 1914s. Have been trying to find the reason for awhile now. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

01-06-2005, 09:57 AM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Bob, Thanks for the Scandinavian info. Sorry I'm late responding, but I'm old! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-12-2004, 07:03 PM	#3
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Jerry, There is not really an interesting story, I met a dealer who acquired part of the collection and bought it from him. The variation 1 was on the FGS website and it completed the 4 variations .... however the first variation was found within 1 day of getting the first 3 guns! I suppose that is unusual? Mark

12-13-2004, 10:40 AM	#5
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Ron, I haven't seen very much written on these guns at all! If you find any good information about the 1914 and 1934 Mausers, let me know. Mark

12-14-2004, 01:18 PM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	Mark, Have you seen the 1913 Mauser advertisement I published here a while back? The description reads: 'Latest Mauser selfloading pistols: Small pocket model with fixed barrel. Calibre 6.35 and 7.65mm, the last is available from january 1914 onwards.'

12-14-2004, 04:15 PM	#7
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 478 Thanks: 1 Thanked 109 Times in 26 Posts	Very Nice, thanks!

12-14-2004, 11:03 PM	#8
RockinWR User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: D/FW, Tx Posts: 279 Thanks: 109 Thanked 31 Times in 16 Posts	Ron/Mark, * FWIW: * Roy G. Pender III, Mauser Pocket Pistols 1910-1946, Pg. 143 states: At about S/N 500,000, a slot was milled in the slide to accept and better protect the S/N." * Mr. Pender's book was copywrited in 1971; so, it is getting pretty "long in the tooth". A lot more research has been done, many more examples have been surfaced, & a lot has been discovered since that time. However, it still is a primary work due respect overall & about the only one devoted to Mauser pocket pistols exclusively. * We do know the 1914/34 pistols represent a transition block which saw a number of changes made to the pistol and the manufacturing process. * Roy goes on to say the "Scandanavian Police" pistols occupy a generous & non exclusive S/N range reported at that time as 475498 - 525081. Even within this specific variation which spans the 500k S/N, Scandanavian examples will be found with and w/out the milled slot for the S/N. * Apparently, the Scandanavian Police pistols were imported into the U.S in a large block in 1967. The Importers obtained them from the firm W. Glaser of Zurich, Switzerland who would only comment that the pistols were bought from a "Scandanavian Police Dept. The variation had not been encountered in this country before that date per Mr. Pender. * Hope this helps. Respectfully, Bob