Trigger and Sights on S/42

Redcoat3340 · 05-31-2017, 08:03 PM

My first P08....a shooter not collector.

I take it there's nothing to be done to reduce trigger pull from 7 lbs to around 5 or sharpen the break besides a good cleaning. If there is I'd love to give my smith some hints.

As for sights. I put a dab of white-out on the front and that's a no-harm improvement. As for rear sights....a wider U/V would be nice and a bit of judicious filing might do that. Aside from altering collector value....a) will it help? and b) will it majorly affect the gun's value, even as a shooter? (I have no plans to sell it....one of my children will get it some day.)

I can keep 'em in the black the way it is....but I'd like to get closer to the X-ring more times than not.

ithacaartist · 05-31-2017, 08:49 PM

Polishing the interfaces along the trigger train can help. Don't mess with the angles of the sear's interface with the f.p.! Just polish...

Widening the rear sight's notch is sometimes done, and I believe the Swiss did it. Low level shooter, what the heck, not much effect, if any. High level "collectible shooter" probably not so advisable. But first, try getting used to the whole deal as-is while you're practicing to hit that X ring.

Don't forget to post pics!

mccaslyn · 05-31-2017, 09:17 PM

I recently got my first shooter and the sights are hard to get used to. I have painted the front sight and this helps a bit. The trigger on mine feels mushy is the best i can describe but light. Ammo effects accuracy on mine quite a bit wwb is by far the most accurate. Overall with practice at 7 yards most of my shots are in the x or right next to it

Redcoat3340 · 06-01-2017, 05:15 AM

Thanks guys. I foresee a trip to Cabelas for some WWW and a lot of trigger time and squinting. My old eyes make it tough enough as it is....I changed most of my favorite range guns and my carry/HD guns to fiber optics with a nice red front sight and green rear. They really help.

Now....maybe a bunch of duct tape (as there's no rail) and a laser ? Or drill and tap for a red dot. Okay...just kidding.

DonVoigt · 06-01-2017, 10:04 AM

I advise strongly to stay away from any 'smith for trigger work- they quite likely will make it worse or cost you a lot in parts replacement.

Practice with the trigger, you can and will get better.

or if you really want a target luger- buy or make one!

There is a Mauser "Sport Modell" on sale here or the other forum- it has adjustable sights.
Or do what I did

, sorry for the fuzzy sight pictures :

Bmax · 11-30-2018, 07:13 AM

Hello,

@DonVoigt
which kind of front sight you used? is it possible to show a picture from top (rear sight)?

thank you
bmax

DonVoigt · 11-30-2018, 09:21 AM

Bmax,
the front sight is available from Brownell's; it fits a "Mauser" rifle slot and I think it is made for fitting to many different applications.

The rear sight is a slightly modified Beretta 92 pistol rear sight.
The lower area of each side was relieved to allow the toggle to close as the sight is slightly wider than the distance between the "forks".
As this one was an experiment, I used a file; a cleaner job could be done by milling the bottom of the sight.

Welcome to the board and hope this helps.

Bmax · 11-30-2018, 10:16 AM

Thank you very much. This will help me al lot.

nice weekend

05-31-2017, 08:03 PM	#1
Redcoat3340 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 18 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Trigger and Sights on S/42 My first P08....a shooter not collector. I take it there's nothing to be done to reduce trigger pull from 7 lbs to around 5 or sharpen the break besides a good cleaning. If there is I'd love to give my smith some hints. As for sights. I put a dab of white-out on the front and that's a no-harm improvement. As for rear sights....a wider U/V would be nice and a bit of judicious filing might do that. Aside from altering collector value....a) will it help? and b) will it majorly affect the gun's value, even as a shooter? (I have no plans to sell it....one of my children will get it some day.) I can keep 'em in the black the way it is....but I'd like to get closer to the X-ring more times than not.

05-31-2017, 08:49 PM	#2
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,277 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	Polishing the interfaces along the trigger train can help. Don't mess with the angles of the sear's interface with the f.p.! Just polish... Widening the rear sight's notch is sometimes done, and I believe the Swiss did it. Low level shooter, what the heck, not much effect, if any. High level "collectible shooter" probably not so advisable. But first, try getting used to the whole deal as-is while you're practicing to hit that X ring. Don't forget to post pics! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

06-01-2017, 10:04 AM	#5
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	I advise strongly to stay away from any 'smith for trigger work- they quite likely will make it worse or cost you a lot in parts replacement. Practice with the trigger, you can and will get better. or if you really want a target luger- buy or make one! There is a Mauser "Sport Modell" on sale here or the other forum- it has adjustable sights. Or do what I did , sorry for the fuzzy sight pictures : Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

11-30-2018, 09:21 AM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Bmax, the front sight is available from Brownell's; it fits a "Mauser" rifle slot and I think it is made for fitting to many different applications. The rear sight is a slightly modified Beretta 92 pistol rear sight. The lower area of each side was relieved to allow the toggle to close as the sight is slightly wider than the distance between the "forks". As this one was an experiment, I used a file; a cleaner job could be done by milling the bottom of the sight. Welcome to the board and hope this helps. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

05-31-2017, 09:17 PM	#3
mccaslyn User Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts	I recently got my first shooter and the sights are hard to get used to. I have painted the front sight and this helps a bit. The trigger on mine feels mushy is the best i can describe but light. Ammo effects accuracy on mine quite a bit wwb is by far the most accurate. Overall with practice at 7 yards most of my shots are in the x or right next to it

06-01-2017, 05:15 AM	#4
Redcoat3340 User Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 18 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks guys. I foresee a trip to Cabelas for some WWW and a lot of trigger time and squinting. My old eyes make it tough enough as it is....I changed most of my favorite range guns and my carry/HD guns to fiber optics with a nice red front sight and green rear. They really help. Now....maybe a bunch of duct tape (as there's no rail) and a laser ? Or drill and tap for a red dot. Okay...just kidding.

11-30-2018, 07:13 AM	#6
Bmax New User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Germany Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, @DonVoigt which kind of front sight you used? is it possible to show a picture from top (rear sight)? thank you bmax

11-30-2018, 10:16 AM	#8
Bmax New User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Germany Posts: 4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you very much. This will help me al lot. nice weekend