Proof On Test Grips~

cirelaw · 08-30-2016, 01:46 PM

I finally removed the grips to my 1900 US Test Luger, #6786 and discovered a proof in addition to the two digit serial number. My 1902 Fat Barrel is devoid of any. I wondered who, when and why was it applied? Is it unique to these thousand test lugers?

DonVoigt · 08-30-2016, 05:13 PM

Those are not "proofs", just inspection, or assemblers markings, IMO.

4 Scale · 08-30-2016, 07:49 PM

If you scroll through this thread

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...tty+proof+mark

you'll find some discussion of the mark beginning at post #8. I also referred to a similar mark as a 'proof mark'; but got away with it in that thread.

Your pistol is breathtaking - is that original finish?

cirelaw · 08-31-2016, 08:18 PM

Yes all original and US test holster, both from Ralph Shattuck!

Eugen · 08-31-2016, 11:12 PM

Golly, Eric, you certainly have some nice Lugers in your collection!

cirelaw · 09-01-2016, 10:08 AM

Its my best investment since Debby my third wife!

Lugerdoc · 09-01-2016, 10:35 AM

Eric, A photo of the back of your holster would tell us more about it's originality. The originals that I've seen were a lighter tan color. TH

cirelaw · 09-01-2016, 11:37 AM

Are evident inside and out! Can not be artificially aged!!

cirelaw · 09-01-2016, 05:32 PM

Thank You Dave~

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 11:16 AM

El Paso Repro Test Holster~ https://www.epsaddlery.com/pc-105-9-1900-holster.aspx

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 11:26 AM

Another~http://www.handgunsoftheworld.com/ca...7/10182810.htm

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 11:44 AM

A legit~http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#american

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 12:17 PM

Our Members Research~http://testluger.com/

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 12:22 PM

The Tests~http://testluger.com/?page_id=2

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 12:32 PM

A past auction for reference~http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/53/lid/3128

ithacaartist · 09-02-2016, 12:38 PM

And a current auction, in case anybody is feeling froggy! http://www.rockislandauction.com/search/aid/68

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 12:40 PM

Another auction example~ http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/52/lid/3452

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 12:56 PM

Thanks Dave~A nice find!!

ithacaartist · 09-02-2016, 02:58 PM

Next important model , the 1902 Fat Barrel. Yours is much nicer Eric, but this went for only $3,450.
http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1027/lid/4398

cirelaw · 09-02-2016, 03:15 PM

That is a fair price for a rare sample in fair condition. It would be a great project for Ted. They estimate only 500 were made! Mine shows no toggle wear! One hundred and 12 years surviving so well. The only virgin I will ever meet!

08-30-2016, 01:46 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Proof On Test Grips~ I finally removed the grips to my 1900 US Test Luger, #6786 and discovered a proof in addition to the two digit serial number. My 1902 Fat Barrel is devoid of any. I wondered who, when and why was it applied? Is it unique to these thousand test lugers? Attached Thumbnails

08-30-2016, 05:13 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Those are not "proofs", just inspection, or assemblers markings, IMO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

08-31-2016, 08:18 PM	#4
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Yes all original and US test holster, both from Ralph Shattuck! Attached Images

08-31-2016, 11:12 PM	#5
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 790 Thanks: 394 Thanked 631 Times in 334 Posts	Golly, Eric, you certainly have some nice Lugers in your collection! __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

09-01-2016, 10:35 AM	#7
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Eric, A photo of the back of your holster would tell us more about it's originality. The originals that I've seen were a lighter tan color. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-30-2016, 07:49 PM	#3
4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	If you scroll through this thread http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...tty+proof+mark you'll find some discussion of the mark beginning at post #8. I also referred to a similar mark as a 'proof mark'; but got away with it in that thread. Your pistol is breathtaking - is that original finish?

09-01-2016, 10:08 AM	#6
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Its my best investment since Debby my third wife!

09-01-2016, 11:37 AM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Test Holster Wear Internal Marks Are evident inside and out! Can not be artificially aged!! Attached Thumbnails

09-01-2016, 05:32 PM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You Dave~

09-02-2016, 11:16 AM	#10
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	El Paso Repro Test Holster~ https://www.epsaddlery.com/pc-105-9-1900-holster.aspx Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 11:26 AM	#11
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Another~http://www.handgunsoftheworld.com/ca...7/10182810.htm Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 11:44 AM	#12
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A legit~http://www.landofborchardt.com/holsters.html#american Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 12:17 PM	#13
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Our Members Research~http://testluger.com/ Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 12:22 PM	#14
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	The Tests~http://testluger.com/?page_id=2 Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 12:32 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	A past auction for reference~http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/53/lid/3128 Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 12:38 PM	#16
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,280 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	And a current auction, in case anybody is feeling froggy! http://www.rockislandauction.com/search/aid/68 __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

09-02-2016, 12:40 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Another auction example~ http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/52/lid/3452

09-02-2016, 12:56 PM	#18
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thanks Dave~A nice find!! Attached Thumbnails

09-02-2016, 02:58 PM	#19
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,280 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	Next important model , the 1902 Fat Barrel. Yours is much nicer Eric, but this went for only $3,450. http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie.../1027/lid/4398 __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

09-02-2016, 03:15 PM	#20
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	That is a fair price for a rare sample in fair condition. It would be a great project for Ted. They estimate only 500 were made! Mine shows no toggle wear! One hundred and 12 years surviving so well. The only virgin I will ever meet! Attached Thumbnails