Opinions Welcome on 42 BYF Black Widow

cruizer · 03-13-2014, 10:22 AM

Hi Everyone
As I have very little experince in collecting lugers I would like to ask for some of your valueable knowledge in this field as to buying this BW Rig......I have been trying to read as much as possible as to not make a costly mistake.... Thank-you for any help.....

cruizer · 03-13-2014, 10:25 AM

Couple more pic's Thank-you....

John Sabato · 03-13-2014, 10:29 AM

The pistol looks great, and the holster looks almost too good to be true. Where was this rig kept for the last 69 years?

DavidJayUden · 03-13-2014, 10:50 AM

There is a lot of extra material sticking out on the sewn-on magazine pouch, something that I'd like to hear Jerry weigh in on. Like John says, the holster almost looks too good to be true. Can we see some inside and rear angle photos?
And isn't it unusual for there to not be a bore diameter stamping on the barrel? (I have nothing newer than 1937 handy to check.)
A very nice looking rig, to be sure.
dju

Norme · 03-13-2014, 10:57 AM

Hi David, Mauser stopped applying the bore measurement in mid 1942.
Regards, Norm

ithacaartist · 03-13-2014, 11:18 AM

Sweet looking Mauser rig! Condition throughout looks in concert, all appears in very, very good shape. Threaded grips, so original? We are curious as to the seller's asking price!

cruizer · 03-13-2014, 11:20 AM

Hope this is what your looking for.....Thank-you Ron

cruizer · 03-14-2014, 09:00 AM

Thank-you all who gave their opinion on this rig......To me it seemed like a very nice rig and exactly what I was looking for but with little experience in buying collectible Luger's other opinions are greatly appreciated......I took the plunge and bought it and I think I will be very happy with it.....Again THANK-YOU for you help.....

Ron

Sergio Natali · 03-14-2014, 11:46 AM

The gun is simply gorgeous!
To me it's a bit too good to be true, probably rebuffed.

SteveM · 03-15-2014, 07:43 AM

Nothing wrong with that one, has just the right amount of wear in the right places.

rhinemann · 03-15-2014, 08:47 AM

Very nice rig, it doesn't get any better than that. Just plain pretty, nice find you have there.

jeffrey

CJS57 · 03-15-2014, 09:16 AM

Not to good to be true! I have seen even better. Just a plain old original and great condition 42! (And Don't worry about the naysayers that always appear on a high condition gun thread. Just a part of posting a gun on the internet it seems.)

cruizer · 03-15-2014, 11:43 AM

Thank-you for your opinions.....The seller really took alot of quality pic's of the rig (170) to a novice like me it really helped..... if you might be interested here's the link....Thanks Again....Ron

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=397362784

Ron Wood · 03-15-2014, 12:23 PM

It would be very difficult to upgrade this rig. You have done well.

03-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#1
cruizer User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Opinions Welcome on 42 BYF Black Widow Hi Everyone As I have very little experince in collecting lugers I would like to ask for some of your valueable knowledge in this field as to buying this BW Rig......I have been trying to read as much as possible as to not make a costly mistake.... Thank-you for any help..... Attached Thumbnails

03-13-2014, 10:25 AM	#2
cruizer User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Couple more pic's Thank-you.... Attached Thumbnails

03-13-2014, 10:29 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	The pistol looks great, and the holster looks almost too good to be true. Where was this rig kept for the last 69 years? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-13-2014, 11:18 AM	#6
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	Sweet looking Mauser rig! Condition throughout looks in concert, all appears in very, very good shape. Threaded grips, so original? We are curious as to the seller's asking price! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-13-2014, 11:20 AM	#7
cruizer User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Hope this is what your looking for.....Thank-you Ron Attached Thumbnails

03-13-2014, 10:50 AM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	There is a lot of extra material sticking out on the sewn-on magazine pouch, something that I'd like to hear Jerry weigh in on. Like John says, the holster almost looks too good to be true. Can we see some inside and rear angle photos? And isn't it unusual for there to not be a bore diameter stamping on the barrel? (I have nothing newer than 1937 handy to check.) A very nice looking rig, to be sure. dju

03-13-2014, 10:57 AM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi David, Mauser stopped applying the bore measurement in mid 1942. Regards, Norm

03-14-2014, 09:00 AM	#8
cruizer User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Thank-you all who gave their opinion on this rig......To me it seemed like a very nice rig and exactly what I was looking for but with little experience in buying collectible Luger's other opinions are greatly appreciated......I took the plunge and bought it and I think I will be very happy with it.....Again THANK-YOU for you help..... Ron

03-14-2014, 11:46 AM	#9
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	The gun is simply gorgeous! To me it's a bit too good to be true, probably rebuffed. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

03-15-2014, 07:43 AM	#10
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Nothing wrong with that one, has just the right amount of wear in the right places.

03-15-2014, 08:47 AM	#11
rhinemann User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: S. Calif. Posts: 66 Thanks: 14 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts	Very nice rig, it doesn't get any better than that. Just plain pretty, nice find you have there. jeffrey

03-15-2014, 09:16 AM	#12
CJS57 User Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 81 Times in 41 Posts	Not to good to be true! I have seen even better. Just a plain old original and great condition 42! (And Don't worry about the naysayers that always appear on a high condition gun thread. Just a part of posting a gun on the internet it seems.)

03-15-2014, 11:43 AM	#13
cruizer User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 32 Thanks: 4 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts	Thank-you for your opinions.....The seller really took alot of quality pic's of the rig (170) to a novice like me it really helped..... if you might be interested here's the link....Thanks Again....Ron http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=397362784

03-15-2014, 12:23 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	It would be very difficult to upgrade this rig. You have done well. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction