K-Date Magazine

ToggleTop · 08-25-2002, 07:46 PM

This magazine appears to be original in all ways. If you look at it close you will notice something strange. The pistol number is running in the opposite direction. It has the normal "S" mark and the proper bracketed 037 proof. Has anyone ever seen a Mauser military magazine with the numbers running in this direction?

Herb · 08-25-2002, 07:58 PM

Just goes to proove that some people can't get any thing right! Personally I would be a little leery of this one. The numbering is not straight and the 1 appears to to have been double stamped or stamped over another number and the overall appearance is just too good, obviously the previous owner of this Luger didn't use it to crack walnuts with. Most of these aluminum bottom mags have small dings and dents from use. Just my opinion based upon what I can tell from the photo.

ToggleTop · 08-25-2002, 08:21 PM

Thanks Herb,
I would not have posted this if I had not felt this magazine was right. It appears to me to be correct. No numbers have been over struck. The alignment of the figures does not bother me. You can find misalignment on many magazines. The base does not shows signs of being sanded or buffed. It does have the normal minor nicks and dings on the base you would expect.
These images are very deceptive in trying to view the exact properties of an object. In their best they can be misleading and you have to be very careful when viewing them.

LP08 · 08-25-2002, 08:33 PM

Do the earlier K magazines have the scriptic S rather than this gothic S? I am assuming so.

ToggleTop · 08-25-2002, 08:37 PM

LP08,
You can find no consistencies on the type of "S" used on K-Date lugers or their magazines. They are totally a mixed up sequence.

MauserLugers · 08-25-2002, 09:00 PM

Hi,
If your K-date is number 3219, then the magazine is not correct in my opinion. I use to own that gun and the Luger was reblued without question, and the magazine was made to match in my opinion. I felt it was bogus. Sorry! I sold and represented this piece as a reblued K-date.

ToggleTop · 08-25-2002, 10:05 PM

Hello MauserLugers,
No, I do not own K-Date Luger 3219, I just have this magazine that I asked if anyone had ever seen a Mauser military magazine with the serial figures reversed. I am sure you are aware of the inconsistencies found on lugers during the K-Date production such as setback front sight, mauser hump, no mauser hump and the different style "S' stamped everywhere in different styles. Even the trigger bar is different on K-Date lugers than the ones found on later Mauser lugers.
Again, my basic question was, has anyone ever seen a Mauser military luger magazine with the figures reversed?

MauserLugers · 08-25-2002, 10:36 PM

Hi Toggle Top,
I have not seen any that I thought were original. This was the magazine that was in the Luger that I sold. I have seen two other magazines that were on up-side-down, and both were Simson magazines. I just do not think they were correct either. Good collecting --

ToggleTop · 08-25-2002, 10:58 PM

MauserLugers,
This magazine came in a K-Date luger I purchased from Simpson Ltd. The serial number of the luger I purchased was 4372.
In my 40 years of collecting I have never seen one like it! [img]frown.gif[/img]

08-25-2002, 07:46 PM	#1
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	K-Date Magazine This magazine appears to be original in all ways. If you look at it close you will notice something strange. The pistol number is running in the opposite direction. It has the normal "S" mark and the proper bracketed 037 proof. Has anyone ever seen a Mauser military magazine with the numbers running in this direction? __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

08-25-2002, 07:58 PM	#2
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Just goes to proove that some people can't get any thing right! Personally I would be a little leery of this one. The numbering is not straight and the 1 appears to to have been double stamped or stamped over another number and the overall appearance is just too good, obviously the previous owner of this Luger didn't use it to crack walnuts with. Most of these aluminum bottom mags have small dings and dents from use. Just my opinion based upon what I can tell from the photo. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

08-25-2002, 08:21 PM	#3
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Herb, I would not have posted this if I had not felt this magazine was right. It appears to me to be correct. No numbers have been over struck. The alignment of the figures does not bother me. You can find misalignment on many magazines. The base does not shows signs of being sanded or buffed. It does have the normal minor nicks and dings on the base you would expect. These images are very deceptive in trying to view the exact properties of an object. In their best they can be misleading and you have to be very careful when viewing them. __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

08-25-2002, 08:37 PM	#5
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	LP08, You can find no consistencies on the type of "S" used on K-Date lugers or their magazines. They are totally a mixed up sequence. __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

08-25-2002, 10:05 PM	#7
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello MauserLugers, No, I do not own K-Date Luger 3219, I just have this magazine that I asked if anyone had ever seen a Mauser military magazine with the serial figures reversed. I am sure you are aware of the inconsistencies found on lugers during the K-Date production such as setback front sight, mauser hump, no mauser hump and the different style "S' stamped everywhere in different styles. Even the trigger bar is different on K-Date lugers than the ones found on later Mauser lugers. Again, my basic question was, has anyone ever seen a Mauser military luger magazine with the figures reversed? __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

08-25-2002, 08:33 PM	#4
LP08 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Do the earlier K magazines have the scriptic S rather than this gothic S? I am assuming so.

08-25-2002, 09:00 PM	#6
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Hi, If your K-date is number 3219, then the magazine is not correct in my opinion. I use to own that gun and the Luger was reblued without question, and the magazine was made to match in my opinion. I felt it was bogus. Sorry! I sold and represented this piece as a reblued K-date.

08-25-2002, 10:36 PM	#8
MauserLugers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Philipsburg, Montana 59858 Posts: 250 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 1 Post	Hi Toggle Top, I have not seen any that I thought were original. This was the magazine that was in the Luger that I sold. I have seen two other magazines that were on up-side-down, and both were Simson magazines. I just do not think they were correct either. Good collecting --

08-25-2002, 10:58 PM	#9
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	MauserLugers, This magazine came in a K-Date luger I purchased from Simpson Ltd. The serial number of the luger I purchased was 4372. In my 40 years of collecting I have never seen one like it! [img]frown.gif[/img] __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************