point me in the right direction!

jshep · 06-10-2014, 06:19 PM

hello gents,
we have some proud German heritage in the family who once served during the second great war, with quite a few heirlooms passed down on too my father, one prized possession he has desired that unfortunately wasnt passed down is as you guessed....a luger. i want to get him a genuine nazi luger for his birthday in Aug, but not sure what manufacturer produced them, what markings to look for etc. i have read to stay clear of phoenix investments, but they are about an hour drive from me and its quite tempting to make an appointment with them. any advice on where else i could find one? and what to look for in my search?
thanks gents...

Edward Tinker · 06-10-2014, 07:23 PM

There are hundreds of Lugers for sale at any given moment. Auction sites, lots of dealers, here on the forum, etc.

Realize that WWI and weimar lugers were used in WWII. So if wanting only a made for WWII, you have to decide year of Mauser or krieghoff.

Decide if shooter grade or collector grade.

Military or police

Military and police would be in 9mm

SteveM · 06-10-2014, 07:35 PM

Mauser would be the manufacturer you're looking for. They can be identified with the codes of S/42, 42, byf on the middle toggle link and dated K(1934), G(1935), 1936,1937,1938,1939,1940, 41 and 42. I won't go into the Police models or the Krieghoff manufactured models.

So if it were me I would probably look for a late war Luger. There seem to be plenty of those around.

jshep · 06-10-2014, 07:58 PM

thanks, another question....why do some lugers have white stamps? is this an alteration?

Edward Tinker · 06-10-2014, 08:18 PM

the white you see is put there by owners and is usually not permanent (not counting the 'safety marking').

I would read the FAQ here, read through many posts, etc. Much depends on what you want. If you pick any Luger made before 1939 - it technically is not a WW2 model

And the primary weapon of WW2 germany was the P38 - the luger by then was being produced because not enough P38's could be made

tharpo · 06-10-2014, 09:21 PM

I would recommend you do some window shopping on the Simpson website. Their prices are high retail so you could probably do better price wise buying from another collector. Go to the Mauser section to look at WW2 era Lugers. Staying away from Phoenix Investment Arms is solid advice.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...cecc5b6281d7f0

alanint · 06-11-2014, 07:12 AM

If you are interested in a collector piece, rather than a shooter, contact site members like George Anderson, who always have nice items for sale.

jshep · 06-11-2014, 10:53 AM

Im definitely in search of collector grade, I'm not afraid to spend upwards toward 5 or 6k and I've been browsing Simpson all day the past couple days, they seem pretty straight forward

George Anderson · 06-11-2014, 11:13 AM

Justin, if you send me a PM with your email address I can email lists of about twenty that I have available.

06-10-2014, 06:19 PM	#1
jshep User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 23 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	point me in the right direction! hello gents, we have some proud German heritage in the family who once served during the second great war, with quite a few heirlooms passed down on too my father, one prized possession he has desired that unfortunately wasnt passed down is as you guessed....a luger. i want to get him a genuine nazi luger for his birthday in Aug, but not sure what manufacturer produced them, what markings to look for etc. i have read to stay clear of phoenix investments, but they are about an hour drive from me and its quite tempting to make an appointment with them. any advice on where else i could find one? and what to look for in my search? thanks gents...

06-10-2014, 07:23 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	There are hundreds of Lugers for sale at any given moment. Auction sites, lots of dealers, here on the forum, etc. Realize that WWI and weimar lugers were used in WWII. So if wanting only a made for WWII, you have to decide year of Mauser or krieghoff. Decide if shooter grade or collector grade. Military or police Military and police would be in 9mm __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-10-2014, 07:35 PM	#3
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Mauser would be the manufacturer you're looking for. They can be identified with the codes of S/42, 42, byf on the middle toggle link and dated K(1934), G(1935), 1936,1937,1938,1939,1940, 41 and 42. I won't go into the Police models or the Krieghoff manufactured models. So if it were me I would probably look for a late war Luger. There seem to be plenty of those around.

06-10-2014, 07:58 PM	#4
jshep User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 23 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	thanks, another question....why do some lugers have white stamps? is this an alteration?

06-10-2014, 08:18 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	the white you see is put there by owners and is usually not permanent (not counting the 'safety marking'). I would read the FAQ here, read through many posts, etc. Much depends on what you want. If you pick any Luger made before 1939 - it technically is not a WW2 model And the primary weapon of WW2 germany was the P38 - the luger by then was being produced because not enough P38's could be made

06-10-2014, 09:21 PM	#6
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 537 Thanks: 116 Thanked 376 Times in 154 Posts	I would recommend you do some window shopping on the Simpson website. Their prices are high retail so you could probably do better price wise buying from another collector. Go to the Mauser section to look at WW2 era Lugers. Staying away from Phoenix Investment Arms is solid advice. http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...cecc5b6281d7f0

06-11-2014, 07:12 AM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	If you are interested in a collector piece, rather than a shooter, contact site members like George Anderson, who always have nice items for sale.

06-11-2014, 10:53 AM	#8
jshep User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 23 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Im definitely in search of collector grade, I'm not afraid to spend upwards toward 5 or 6k and I've been browsing Simpson all day the past couple days, they seem pretty straight forward

06-11-2014, 11:13 AM	#9
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,527 Times in 786 Posts	Justin, if you send me a PM with your email address I can email lists of about twenty that I have available.