..another newbie question..

Whisky · 03-16-2018, 04:07 PM

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yes, I've searched but.....no joy

Magazine interchangeability : can the 9mm Luger mag be used in a 7.65 pistol, and vice versa ?

I've ordered a couple from Greg Cote and am curious as I'll be getting both pistols

thank you

wlyon · 03-16-2018, 04:20 PM

Yes there is no difference.

Whisky · 03-16-2018, 05:20 PM

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again, thank you

mrerick · 03-16-2018, 06:00 PM

I'll add it to the FAQ in the part that discusses both .30 Luger and 9mm Luger caliber guns and determining a pistol's cartridge.

cirelaw · 03-16-2018, 06:19 PM

Regarding magazines I wondered if that was originally intentionally or just luck that both fit? What was the earliest that 9mm was chambered. What about prototypes? Can a 7.65 be fired in a 9mm?

ithacaartist · 03-16-2018, 06:58 PM

Eric, nominally intentionally, your Fat Barrel is one of the earliest 9mm (can't tell you about prototypes), and no-- a .30 Luger round will fit, but go in too far. Maybe a .30 would fire in a 9mm chamber, if the gun were pointed straight up!

Edward Tinker · 03-16-2018, 07:30 PM

HOWEVER - some mags are tighter in some guns - I have had some police mags (flat follower type) that will fit in very few guns.

Most mags will fit just fine and either cartridge in either, but just keep it in mind that even in WW2 these were still hand fitted guns.

Ed

cirelaw · 03-16-2018, 07:53 PM

Thank You All~ Talk about a genius! Why is 7.65 ammo so much more costly than the 9mm even at Walmart?

Dave I love my chubby barrel and never want to fire it! I put you in my will!

I just had my loader fixed by GT. A pivit screw broke on my first try. Do both calibre fit a loader equally well?

ithacaartist · 03-17-2018, 01:43 AM

They do. Note how the loader is involved only with the bottom of the shell when you press the handle. The bases of both rounds are the same. The 9mm Luger round was created by extending the .30 Luger's base all the way--just eliminate the bottleneck to allow for a larger bullet.

alanint · 03-20-2018, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Regarding magazines I wondered if that was originally intentionally or just luck that both fit? What was the earliest that 9mm was chambered. What about prototypes? Can a 7.65 be fired in a 9mm?

Remember that the 9mm is basically a "necked up" 7.65. The case right up to the bottleneck is identical to the 9mm.

Edward Tinker · 03-20-2018, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Regarding magazines I wondered if that was originally intentionally or just luck that both fit? What was the earliest that 9mm was chambered. What about prototypes? Can a 7.65 be fired in a 9mm?

Eric my boy, you are wearing me out with all youse questions

DonVoigt · 03-20-2018, 01:15 PM

Eric,
do you have the three volume 1800 page book Pistole Parabellum from Goertz and Sturgess?
If not they make great reading, have super pictures and answer more questions than even you can think of!

wlyon · 03-20-2018, 01:54 PM

Don
Don't count on it. Bill

cirelaw · 03-20-2018, 03:02 PM

Bill, I have the heavy, three volume that is packed away as we are moving in 3 weeks~ I hate moving! "Don't count on it!" ? Books don't always address a question! That if why there are always new books. There are no bad questions only bad answers~ I ask because I don't know or remember because of my stroke! They are trying a new experimental medicine that might slow it down although I'm told it cannot reversed! Please be kind and work with me~Eric

cirelaw · 03-20-2018, 03:07 PM

No compound questions where proper! I might require a kind reminder now and then~

wlyon · 03-20-2018, 03:42 PM

Eric
I hope your new medicine works. Bill

cirelaw · 03-20-2018, 03:53 PM

Thank You Bill! I only hope its covered by my insurance!

DonVoigt · 03-20-2018, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cirelaw

Thank You Bill! I only hope its covered by my insurance!

I do too! Meds can be expensive for sure.

cirelaw · 03-21-2018, 09:22 AM

We are now getting the meds from Canada and India. About half get mailed to us monthly~Less than half the price and its legal!

03-16-2018, 04:07 PM	#1
Whisky User Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	..another newbie question.. . yes, I've searched but.....no joy Magazine interchangeability : can the 9mm Luger mag be used in a 7.65 pistol, and vice versa ? I've ordered a couple from Greg Cote and am curious as I'll be getting both pistols thank you

03-16-2018, 04:20 PM	#2
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,556 Times in 954 Posts	Yes there is no difference. __________________ Bill Lyon

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	I'll add it to the FAQ in the part that discusses both .30 Luger and 9mm Luger caliber guns and determining a pistol's cartridge. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,277 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	Eric, nominally intentionally, your Fat Barrel is one of the earliest 9mm (can't tell you about prototypes), and no-- a .30 Luger round will fit, but go in too far. Maybe a .30 would fire in a 9mm chamber, if the gun were pointed straight up! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	HOWEVER - some mags are tighter in some guns - I have had some police mags (flat follower type) that will fit in very few guns. Most mags will fit just fine and either cartridge in either, but just keep it in mind that even in WW2 these were still hand fitted guns. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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Whisky User Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	. again, thank you

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Regarding magazines I wondered if that was originally intentionally or just luck that both fit? What was the earliest that 9mm was chambered. What about prototypes? Can a 7.65 be fired in a 9mm?

03-16-2018, 07:53 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You All~ Talk about a genius! Why is 7.65 ammo so much more costly than the 9mm even at Walmart? Dave I love my chubby barrel and never want to fire it! I put you in my will! I just had my loader fixed by GT. A pivit screw broke on my first try. Do both calibre fit a loader equally well? Last edited by Edward Tinker; 03-20-2018 at 09:53 AM.

03-17-2018, 01:43 AM	#9
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,277 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	They do. Note how the loader is involved only with the bottom of the shell when you press the handle. The bases of both rounds are the same. The 9mm Luger round was created by extending the .30 Luger's base all the way--just eliminate the bottleneck to allow for a larger bullet. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

03-20-2018, 01:15 PM	#12
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Eric, do you have the three volume 1800 page book Pistole Parabellum from Goertz and Sturgess? If not they make great reading, have super pictures and answer more questions than even you can think of! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,556 Times in 954 Posts	Don Don't count on it. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Bill, I have the heavy, three volume that is packed away as we are moving in 3 weeks~ I hate moving! "Don't count on it!" ? Books don't always address a question! That if why there are always new books. There are no bad questions only bad answers~ I ask because I don't know or remember because of my stroke! They are trying a new experimental medicine that might slow it down although I'm told it cannot reversed! Please be kind and work with me~Eric

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	No compound questions where proper! I might require a kind reminder now and then~

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wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,556 Times in 954 Posts	Eric I hope your new medicine works. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Thank You Bill! I only hope its covered by my insurance!

03-21-2018, 09:22 AM	#19
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	We are now getting the meds from Canada and India. About half get mailed to us monthly~Less than half the price and its legal!