1945 Dated Krieghoff Luftwaffe

armenjs802 · 09-12-2015, 05:38 PM

SOLD! TODAY FOR $45,000

Rock Island

Very Rare Iconic 1945 Dated Krieghoff Luftwaffe Contract Luger Pistol with Holster Pictured in "Lugers At Random" and "The Krieghoff Parabellum"

Description: Very Rare Iconic 1945 Dated Krieghoff Luftwaffe Contract Luger Pistol with Holster Pictured in "Lugers At Random" and "The Krieghoff Parabellum" This is a very rare example of a late WWII production Krieghoff Luger pistol, as described/pictured on page 328 and 329 of "Luger at Random" by Kenyon; providence, Ralph Shattuck's personal collection. These late production pistols were the very last military contract Krieghoff Lugers produced. This is not a post war assembled but a true late war Luftwaffe contract Luger, with an estimated production of less than "200". It has the 1945 dated chamber area with the late double "eagle/2" Krieghoff/Luftwaffe acceptance proofs on the right side of the barrel extension, followed by a firing proof. The barrel is unnumbered but correctly proofed with a single small "eagle/2" proof. It is numbered in an unusual commercial manner, with the full serial number "13090" on the front of the frame and left side of the barrel extension with the various smaller parts stamped with number "90". It is fitted with the correct late war Mauser type black plastic grips with the fine checkering. It is accompanied by two, late war "fxo/eagle/37" marked magazines, both with the unmarked black plastic bases. This rare luger is complete with an original Krieghoff "eagle" over "Z" proofed black leather holster. It is photographed on page 329 of "Lugers At Random" by Charles Kenyon (1969) and on page 186 of "The Krieghoff Parabellum" by Randall Gibson (1980). Manufacturer: Krieghoff Heinrich Gun Co Model: P.08 BBL: 4 inch round Stock: Gauge: 9 mm Luger Finish: blue Grips: plastic Serial Number: 13090 Class: Curio & Relic Handgun Condition: Very fine with 95% of the original blued finish overall with some edge and high spot wear. There is some minor touch up on the lower rear grip strap/stock lug area. The various smaller parts retain 35% of their origianl straw colors overall. The grips are in excellent condition with nice checkering overall with minor handling marks. It has matching numbers on the various parts except the magazines as noted above. The holster is also in excellent condition with a nice even black finish overall with tight stitching showing minor handling marks and minor scuffs overall and a very distinct Luftwaffe "eagle/2" proof on the back inside area of the holster.

abukafura · 09-12-2015, 10:20 PM

What a rare and beautiful Luger. Wish I had the deep pockets to obtain such a fine firearm. Great [photos.

1933 FORD NUT · 09-14-2015, 12:55 PM

Seems there were at least 2 bidders that don't think these are products of WaA USA .

Was good to see the " freshened up " ones did not bring crazy money . Well except the 1938 anyway .

The 1937 serial 10,000 missing final proofs was my favorite but remembering the one HK [ actually my first ] that was once owned by Ralph I passed . That one looked good at first glance but the closer you looked the worse it got . Do not need that experience again .

Wonder what this " 1945 " gem will sell for NEXT TIME it is for sale ? Dave

Caveat Emptor

guns3545 · 09-14-2015, 01:16 PM

Well, another example of Auction regurgitation.

SN13090 was sold earlier this year by Carol Watson. ($13,000). Someone flipped it and made a neat profit!!

But, it is still a Siroonian gun via Ralph and the leopard has not changed any spots.

Only the price has changed.

My opinion of the provenance of 1945 HKs has not changed.

John

09-12-2015, 05:38 PM	#1
armenjs802 User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: View/w Bars on windows -Kali Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1945 Dated Krieghoff Luftwaffe SOLD! TODAY FOR $45,000 Rock Island Very Rare Iconic 1945 Dated Krieghoff Luftwaffe Contract Luger Pistol with Holster Pictured in "Lugers At Random" and "The Krieghoff Parabellum" Description: Very Rare Iconic 1945 Dated Krieghoff Luftwaffe Contract Luger Pistol with Holster Pictured in "Lugers At Random" and "The Krieghoff Parabellum" This is a very rare example of a late WWII production Krieghoff Luger pistol, as described/pictured on page 328 and 329 of "Luger at Random" by Kenyon; providence, Ralph Shattuck's personal collection. These late production pistols were the very last military contract Krieghoff Lugers produced. This is not a post war assembled but a true late war Luftwaffe contract Luger, with an estimated production of less than "200". It has the 1945 dated chamber area with the late double "eagle/2" Krieghoff/Luftwaffe acceptance proofs on the right side of the barrel extension, followed by a firing proof. The barrel is unnumbered but correctly proofed with a single small "eagle/2" proof. It is numbered in an unusual commercial manner, with the full serial number "13090" on the front of the frame and left side of the barrel extension with the various smaller parts stamped with number "90". It is fitted with the correct late war Mauser type black plastic grips with the fine checkering. It is accompanied by two, late war "fxo/eagle/37" marked magazines, both with the unmarked black plastic bases. This rare luger is complete with an original Krieghoff "eagle" over "Z" proofed black leather holster. It is photographed on page 329 of "Lugers At Random" by Charles Kenyon (1969) and on page 186 of "The Krieghoff Parabellum" by Randall Gibson (1980). Manufacturer: Krieghoff Heinrich Gun Co Model: P.08 BBL: 4 inch round Stock: Gauge: 9 mm Luger Finish: blue Grips: plastic Serial Number: 13090 Class: Curio & Relic Handgun Condition: Very fine with 95% of the original blued finish overall with some edge and high spot wear. There is some minor touch up on the lower rear grip strap/stock lug area. The various smaller parts retain 35% of their origianl straw colors overall. The grips are in excellent condition with nice checkering overall with minor handling marks. It has matching numbers on the various parts except the magazines as noted above. The holster is also in excellent condition with a nice even black finish overall with tight stitching showing minor handling marks and minor scuffs overall and a very distinct Luftwaffe "eagle/2" proof on the back inside area of the holster. __________________ Bitterly clinging to my guns/ammo /religion since 11/6/2012, Active GUNBOARDS.COM Compesce Mentem:Compos Mentis Join NRA Become a new member of ------G43 Community

09-12-2015, 10:20 PM	#2
abukafura Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast Wisconsin, near Greeen Bay Posts: 327 Thanks: 1,314 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	What a rare and beautiful Luger. Wish I had the deep pockets to obtain such a fine firearm. Great [photos.

09-14-2015, 12:55 PM	#3
1933 FORD NUT User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: WI Posts: 88 Thanks: 3 Thanked 69 Times in 36 Posts	Seems there were at least 2 bidders that don't think these are products of WaA USA . Was good to see the " freshened up " ones did not bring crazy money . Well except the 1938 anyway . The 1937 serial 10,000 missing final proofs was my favorite but remembering the one HK [ actually my first ] that was once owned by Ralph I passed . That one looked good at first glance but the closer you looked the worse it got . Do not need that experience again . Wonder what this " 1945 " gem will sell for NEXT TIME it is for sale ? Dave Caveat Emptor

09-14-2015, 01:16 PM	#4
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 437 Thanks: 655 Thanked 492 Times in 218 Posts	Well, another example of Auction regurgitation. SN13090 was sold earlier this year by Carol Watson. ($13,000). Someone flipped it and made a neat profit!! But, it is still a Siroonian gun via Ralph and the leopard has not changed any spots. Only the price has changed. My opinion of the provenance of 1945 HKs has not changed. John