Last call for Erma parts

[ithacaartist]

Tomorrow evening I'll be sending off a wish list to a very helpful friend in Germany, which he will check for availability of some parts from a place there that sells them. Just in case I'd forgotten anyone who has expressed a desire for something I don't have in the array of Erma toggle pistol parts I make available, give a holler and we'll get you fixed up.

[sheepherder]

A plethora of parts diagrams, Dave. Maybe you could label them so owners don't get them mixed up???

[ithacaartist]

Rich, look more closely, the model of each is shown in all pics, left side of grip frame!

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Rich, look more closely, the model of each is shown in all pics, left side of grip frame!

I gotcha!

I didn't download the pics - Just looked at the post. Old eyes and all that.

[hayhugh]

Wondering if anyone has run across (when shown on diagram) item # 45 loading gadget? I have an Irma KGP 68A and find that the magazine is almost imposable to load without one!

Might be one of the reasons these guns did not succeed...

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by hayhugh

Wondering if anyone has run across (when shown on diagram) item # 45 loading gadget? I have an Irma KGP 68A and find that the magazine is almost imposable to load without one!

Might be one of the reasons these guns did not succeed...

Hugh,

Although I have several KGP 68 pistols, I only have two of the original loading tools. If you snag one of the cheap-o repro tools from eBay, you can file out the "lip" that catches the follower button and use it on the Erma mags. Remove the lip completely because any remnants of it will wedge between the follower button and the mag body and bind.

The cast zinc alloy grip frame, the tendency they have to throw off their extractors, weakness/vulnerability of certain other parts, and the sometimes deficient reliability in feeding and cycling all let to their ultimate downfall, I think. The 1968 NFA's criteria for import and demands of the market in the 90s probably didn't help, either.

The first printing, in German, of Holger Schlemier's book about Erma history and production is supposed to be completed around the end of the year, so we can look forward to having many Erma questions addressed, and some myths dispelled. An English version should follow in about another year.

[Eugen]

Originally Posted by hayhugh

Wondering if anyone has run across (when shown on diagram) item # 45 loading gadget? I have an Irma KGP 68A and find that the magazine is almost imposable to load without one!

Might be one of the reasons these guns did not succeed...

I understand exactly what you are saying. David's been a great supplier of ERMA parts for me, but I haven't been able to find an oem loading tool...so I made a cheapie version in about three minutes.

I used an old thick polymer pharmacy bottle and cut it down, serated the thumb/ index finger pinch tab and drilled a hole in it. Voila! Hey, it works for me.

I'll try to post a few pics of this home made gizmo when I get a chance.