WWI Holster Marking...

Pete Ebbink · 12-01-2004, 11:58 AM

This WWI holster just appeared on e-Bay :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...290524639&rd=1

Anyone seen a holster marking like this before ?

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

lugerholsterrepair · 12-01-2004, 07:00 PM

Pete, I don't recall seeing anything like it...Jerry Burney

RockinWR · 12-01-2004, 07:03 PM

Pete,
* Yes.
* I own a '18 HKO; although, I seem to remember mine being marked between the belt loops. It has a Bavarian C/I mark also.
* John Walter, The Luger Book, Pg. 137 states: On pre-1918 PT.08 and magazine/ammo pouches, HKO over MÃ?Â¼nchen has been reported on Bavarian holsters in conjunction with a distinctive Crown "I", "II", or "III". At the time of this writing no satisfactory explanation of these marks has been offered."
* Since that time, an Auto Mag article surfaced in Vol. XXX, Pg. 243 offering an explanation of the Crown marking as: "One of the 3 Bavarian region of commands during 1914-1918".
- 1st Army Corp in SÃ?Â¼d Bayern with MÃ?Â¼nich as the center of command,
- 2nd Army Corp in Unterfranken und Pfalz with WÃ?Â¼rzburg as the center, and
- 3rd Army Corp in Nord-Bayern with NÃ?Â¼rnburg as the center.
* Each Corp center had its own "Bekeidungsamt", clothing procurement/distribution office, responsible for leather.
* Unfortunately, I have not yet found an explanation for who "HKO" is. Anyone have further ID info on HKO?
Respectfully,
Bob

John Sabato · 12-02-2004, 10:01 AM

Great discussion guys! ...perhaps one of you might ask this question over on Jan Still's forum if we don't get a definitive answer here in the next day or so...

12-01-2004, 11:58 AM	#1
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12-01-2004, 07:00 PM	#2
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12-02-2004, 10:01 AM	#4
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12-01-2004, 07:03 PM	#3
RockinWR User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: D/FW, Tx Posts: 279 Thanks: 109 Thanked 31 Times in 16 Posts	Pete, * Yes. * I own a '18 HKO; although, I seem to remember mine being marked between the belt loops. It has a Bavarian C/I mark also. * John Walter, The Luger Book, Pg. 137 states: On pre-1918 PT.08 and magazine/ammo pouches, HKO over MÃ?Â¼nchen has been reported on Bavarian holsters in conjunction with a distinctive Crown "I", "II", or "III". At the time of this writing no satisfactory explanation of these marks has been offered." * Since that time, an Auto Mag article surfaced in Vol. XXX, Pg. 243 offering an explanation of the Crown marking as: "One of the 3 Bavarian region of commands during 1914-1918". - 1st Army Corp in SÃ?Â¼d Bayern with MÃ?Â¼nich as the center of command, - 2nd Army Corp in Unterfranken und Pfalz with WÃ?Â¼rzburg as the center, and - 3rd Army Corp in Nord-Bayern with NÃ?Â¼rnburg as the center. * Each Corp center had its own "Bekeidungsamt", clothing procurement/distribution office, responsible for leather. * Unfortunately, I have not yet found an explanation for who "HKO" is. Anyone have further ID info on HKO? Respectfully, Bob