Drum and loader interchangability???

G.T. · 01-12-2019, 10:03 PM

Hello to all, I've recently received a few original drums in for cleaning and repair, and I'm finding that BING loaders work on both types, AEG & BING drums... But, the AEG loader is tight on the BING drums??? Anyone have ever had this happen to them?.. Just would like to know... best to all, til...lat'r….GT...

LU1900 · 01-14-2019, 06:31 AM

Because your post I try my AEG loader on alls my seven bing : very difficult to use on , they don't go inside the aeg loader

G.T. · 01-14-2019, 10:28 PM

After cleaning, lubing and testing the AEG drum I have in the shop I have come away with some little bits of discovery that makes this so much fun!
When tensioning the main spring, it is either hard, or less one rotation, soft.. no in between! Drum center pivot is indexed in one spot on a round shaft? Oh well, we went for tight....

Then we tested, very stiff feed and chambering after about half way through? finally discovered that because of the very long feedlips, that on some lugers, it was stopping on the feed ramp while still stuck in the feedlips? Would go forward, but stopped even on a polished ramp?... So, I opened up the feedlips ever so slightly, which resulted in a little, but not much, improvement... So, I tried it in a Luger with a higher mag catch, or a longer lower feed ramp, or both, and wow, it worked great! Got to thinking about the time frame on the bullet type it might be designed for, and drug out some Fiocchi truncated cone ball, and double wow, it worked even better...

... So, the correlation between feed ramp and feed lips is very critical on the AEG offering, the BING drum, by design, has very short feedlips, and gives the round a chance to elevate and rotate when it hits the ramp... With this new found knowledge, I would recommend shooting the BING drums only in Lugers, and maybe retire to AEG or use it with an MP18?... Best to all, til….lat'r…..GT...

Ron Wood · 01-19-2019, 08:48 PM

Can't get my AEG loader on a Bing TM. It hangs up before the magazine catch will engage. I actually had to drive the loader off the Bing tube with a soft mallet.
Ron

01-12-2019, 10:03 PM	#1
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Drum and loader interchangability??? Hello to all, I've recently received a few original drums in for cleaning and repair, and I'm finding that BING loaders work on both types, AEG & BING drums... But, the AEG loader is tight on the BING drums??? Anyone have ever had this happen to them?.. Just would like to know... best to all, til...lat'r….GT...

01-14-2019, 06:31 AM	#2
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Because your post I try my AEG loader on alls my seven bing : very difficult to use on , they don't go inside the aeg loader __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

01-14-2019, 10:28 PM	#3
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	More AEG stuff! After cleaning, lubing and testing the AEG drum I have in the shop I have come away with some little bits of discovery that makes this so much fun! When tensioning the main spring, it is either hard, or less one rotation, soft.. no in between! Drum center pivot is indexed in one spot on a round shaft? Oh well, we went for tight.... Then we tested, very stiff feed and chambering after about half way through? finally discovered that because of the very long feedlips, that on some lugers, it was stopping on the feed ramp while still stuck in the feedlips? Would go forward, but stopped even on a polished ramp?... So, I opened up the feedlips ever so slightly, which resulted in a little, but not much, improvement... So, I tried it in a Luger with a higher mag catch, or a longer lower feed ramp, or both, and wow, it worked great! Got to thinking about the time frame on the bullet type it might be designed for, and drug out some Fiocchi truncated cone ball, and double wow, it worked even better... ... So, the correlation between feed ramp and feed lips is very critical on the AEG offering, the BING drum, by design, has very short feedlips, and gives the round a chance to elevate and rotate when it hits the ramp... With this new found knowledge, I would recommend shooting the BING drums only in Lugers, and maybe retire to AEG or use it with an MP18?... Best to all, til….lat'r…..GT...

01-19-2019, 08:48 PM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	Can't get my AEG loader on a Bing TM. It hangs up before the magazine catch will engage. I actually had to drive the loader off the Bing tube with a soft mallet. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction