The rarest Erfurt

Doug G. · 06-22-2002, 01:20 PM

I am going to be very ill for awhile! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" />

ERFURT

Frank · 06-22-2002, 02:28 PM

OK Doug, that's allowed!!! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

Brandon · 06-22-2002, 02:41 PM

AH HA HA HA HA!!!!!!! No wonder they can't find it in any Luger book.........HA HA HA ROFLMAO!!!!

[img]biggrin.gif[/img] ,Brandon

Hugh · 06-22-2002, 04:05 PM

Wouldn't ya know he has ta be frum Texas? <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

Think I'll buy hit fur those purty grips, they shor wud dress up my Armadilly gun! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

wterrell · 06-22-2002, 05:42 PM

Haw, Haw, Haw!!! And who says that the world is not going to hell?

Jan C Still · 06-22-2002, 09:58 PM

Doug
The rarest Erfurt luger is dated 1910. It was first described in AUTO MAG and is somewhat controversal. Only two are known.
Jan

Dwight Gruber · 06-22-2002, 11:46 PM

Actually, I kinda like the grips

--Dwight (ducking and covering [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] )

Pete Ebbink · 06-23-2002, 12:27 PM

Does anyone know who is lucky enough to own the 1910 Erfurt, nowdays ?

Do any photos exist that are available to the public ? In a book ? Would appreciate the chance to see any photos...

Heard it was bought for $ 100 originally and then offers over $ 3000 popped up, amongst serious collectors...

Imperial Arms · 06-23-2002, 02:33 PM

As far as I know, the rarest Erfurt Luger (4" barrel) is serial #1 which is in the Pattern Room Collection in the UK. I have examined this pistol in my hands, I have a photo of this pistol in my album and I shall post it here when I return to the US. I believe that the chamber date is 1910.

wterrell · 06-23-2002, 03:25 PM

The image was too difficult for my old eyes to see so I adjusted the lightness, gamma, and saturation. Now I can admire it better!

Roadkill · 06-23-2002, 04:05 PM

That really wasn't necessary, and there can't be more than one of these. Someone should put this poor thing out of its misery, like in RVN, we had to destroy the village to save it form the bad guys.

RK

Pete Ebbink · 06-23-2002, 08:05 PM

Hello Terry and Albert,

I was not aware of two (2) 1910 Erfurts, as Jan has educated us to the fact. Thank you, Jan.

If one 1910 is in England, I heard the 2nd. 1910 surfaced in the USA in one of our southern states.

Does anyone know the whereabouts of the 2nd. 1910 Erfurt?

<img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Jan C Still · 06-23-2002, 09:06 PM

Pete
Both 1910 Erfurts are in the USA. I have an article (previously presented in AUTO MAG) that I would be glad to post on the Forum. It covers both 1910 Erfurt Lugers and is complete with detailed photographs. I would have to send the hard copy for someone else to post, 4 pages. Let me know if interested.

Erfurt sn 1 is in the Imperial War Museum (Pattern Room?)and has been reported by several collectors as being dated 1911 not 1910.

Wes, what does your photograph of the Luger with the garish grips have to do with the subject under discussion.
Jan

Pete Ebbink · 06-23-2002, 09:28 PM

Hello Jan,

1. I have sent you a private e-mail with my address. If you would send the article, I can scan and get it posted on the Forum. Do you know if I would need to get NAPCA permission before I post it ? I am a NAPCA member, as of April of this year...

2. I think I am the one that got the two messages going on the same posting. The original posting was titled "The Rarest Luger" (tongue in cheek, I think) and referred to that luger with the black colorful grips; and then I mistakenly started a thread inside a thread about trying to find out if a 1910 Erfurt is real (and assumingly very rare...).

wterrell · 06-24-2002, 12:09 AM

Jan,
Check the post that started this thread. There is a link (the word Erfurt) to this Luger picture that is up on an auction. You will see that several of the posts refer to this picture. I was puzzled over several of the posts until I figured out that several persons were posting about the title of the thread, "The Rarest Erfurt"

I enjoyed both lines of this thread and saw no reason to interrupt.

06-22-2002, 04:05 PM	#4
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	Wouldn't ya know he has ta be frum Texas? <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> Think I'll buy hit fur those purty grips, they shor wud dress up my Armadilly gun! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-22-2002, 05:42 PM	#5
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Haw, Haw, Haw!!! And who says that the world is not going to hell? __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

06-23-2002, 03:25 PM	#10
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The image was too difficult for my old eyes to see so I adjusted the lightness, gamma, and saturation. Now I can admire it better! __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

06-24-2002, 12:09 AM	#15
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jan, Check the post that started this thread. There is a link (the word Erfurt) to this Luger picture that is up on an auction. You will see that several of the posts refer to this picture. I was puzzled over several of the posts until I figured out that several persons were posting about the title of the thread, "The Rarest Erfurt" I enjoyed both lines of this thread and saw no reason to interrupt. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

06-22-2002, 01:20 PM	#1
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	The rarest Erfurt I am going to be very ill for awhile! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> ERFURT __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

06-22-2002, 02:28 PM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	OK Doug, that's allowed!!! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />

06-22-2002, 02:41 PM	#3
Brandon User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	AH HA HA HA HA!!!!!!! No wonder they can't find it in any Luger book.........HA HA HA ROFLMAO!!!! [img]biggrin.gif[/img] ,Brandon

06-22-2002, 09:58 PM	#6
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Doug The rarest Erfurt luger is dated 1910. It was first described in AUTO MAG and is somewhat controversal. Only two are known. Jan

06-22-2002, 11:46 PM	#7
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,317 Times in 431 Posts	Actually, I kinda like the grips --Dwight (ducking and covering [img]rolleyes.gif[/img] )

06-23-2002, 12:27 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Does anyone know who is lucky enough to own the 1910 Erfurt, nowdays ? Do any photos exist that are available to the public ? In a book ? Would appreciate the chance to see any photos... Heard it was bought for $ 100 originally and then offers over $ 3000 popped up, amongst serious collectors...

06-23-2002, 02:33 PM	#9
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	As far as I know, the rarest Erfurt Luger (4" barrel) is serial #1 which is in the Pattern Room Collection in the UK. I have examined this pistol in my hands, I have a photo of this pistol in my album and I shall post it here when I return to the US. I believe that the chamber date is 1910.

06-23-2002, 04:05 PM	#11
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	That really wasn't necessary, and there can't be more than one of these. Someone should put this poor thing out of its misery, like in RVN, we had to destroy the village to save it form the bad guys. RK

06-23-2002, 08:05 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Terry and Albert, I was not aware of two (2) 1910 Erfurts, as Jan has educated us to the fact. Thank you, Jan. If one 1910 is in England, I heard the 2nd. 1910 surfaced in the USA in one of our southern states. Does anyone know the whereabouts of the 2nd. 1910 Erfurt? <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

06-23-2002, 09:06 PM	#13
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Pete Both 1910 Erfurts are in the USA. I have an article (previously presented in AUTO MAG) that I would be glad to post on the Forum. It covers both 1910 Erfurt Lugers and is complete with detailed photographs. I would have to send the hard copy for someone else to post, 4 pages. Let me know if interested. Erfurt sn 1 is in the Imperial War Museum (Pattern Room?)and has been reported by several collectors as being dated 1911 not 1910. Wes, what does your photograph of the Luger with the garish grips have to do with the subject under discussion. Jan

06-23-2002, 09:28 PM	#14
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Jan, 1. I have sent you a private e-mail with my address. If you would send the article, I can scan and get it posted on the Forum. Do you know if I would need to get NAPCA permission before I post it ? I am a NAPCA member, as of April of this year... 2. I think I am the one that got the two messages going on the same posting. The original posting was titled "The Rarest Luger" (tongue in cheek, I think) and referred to that luger with the black colorful grips; and then I mistakenly started a thread inside a thread about trying to find out if a 1910 Erfurt is real (and assumingly very rare...).