Black Stoeger Luger

Mauser9x57 · 05-05-2020, 10:11 PM

I saw a black Stoeger Navy model luger on the Rock Island Auction site. Are these stainless too with just some sort of coating to make them appear to be blued? Thank you in advance.
Dave

DonVoigt · 05-06-2020, 11:19 AM

There are at least two "generations" of Stoeger luger.

There are some blued ones for sure, if "black" it may be a coating applied to the later version of
stainless steel; or just a late "blued" pistol with very dark "black oxide" finish.

More data, pictures or a link to the auction page would help.

Mauser9x57 · 05-07-2020, 11:23 PM

I am no computer whiz so if this link doesn't work the pistol is at Rock Island Auction and is lot #1014. Here is the link (I hope). https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...stol-with-case
Dave

ithacaartist · 05-08-2020, 06:15 PM

Aimco's last-produced Luger was the 1900/2000 commemorative series of 350 pistols. Stainless like all the rest...but with black Cerokote. The Stoeger in the link is a "2-line" example from the 20s, after military style serial numbering of commercials began. I wouldn't call it a Navy because it has standard rear sight. Stoeger installed custom length barrels to order after the guns reached the U.S. Serial number listed oddly backwards, 5577n. This nice pistol will go for beau coup bucks.

Ron Wood · 05-08-2020, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Aimco's last-produced Luger was the 1900/2000 commemorative series of 350 pistols. Stainless like all the rest...but with black Cerokote.

Fond memories. That Aimco Luger was offered for sale at the 2000 Kansas City NAPCA show. I designed the commemorative medal and Mark Rendina had them made up to sell/give at the show.
Ron

ithacaartist · 05-11-2020, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Fond memories. That Aimco Luger was offered for sale at the 2000 Kansas City NAPCA show. I designed the commemorative medal and Mark Rendina had them made up to sell/give at the show.
Ron

Ron, do you remember what came with an Aimco Centennial Luger? Plastic box, or something more ambitious? Extra mag? etc.

Mine, as an auction purchase, came gun only, and with one mag that really didn't fit or function very well. I still had two of the smooth-sided stainless mags with the eagles cast into the plastic bottom's knobs, and they are just right.

Finally, what would you suggest for getting ahold of one of those medals?

Ron Wood · 05-11-2020, 12:09 PM

The only things I saw at the show were the guns, there were no boxes or accessories on display.

I wish I could point you to a source for medals. Sadly, I have only two left, one I have modified to fasten to my gun show name tag and the other I occasionally wear on my jacket when I'm not wearing my name tag. I wish I had some more! I think Mark has sold or given away all of his also. After 20 years I doubt that the guy that made the medals still has the dies and I don't even know who he is, Mark handled that end.
Ron

Mauser9x57 · 05-15-2020, 01:27 PM

I called it black and a Navy because Rock Island did in their ad. I have seen pictures of Stoeger Lugers made by DWM. Rock Island has one for sale in their next auction. Evidently no one else agreed it was worth big money. It sold for $1495. It did not have DWM marking and I think it must have been a new stainless reproduction

05-06-2020, 11:19 AM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	There are at least two "generations" of Stoeger luger. There are some blued ones for sure, if "black" it may be a coating applied to the later version of stainless steel; or just a late "blued" pistol with very dark "black oxide" finish. More data, pictures or a link to the auction page would help. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

05-08-2020, 06:15 PM	#4
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	Aimco's last-produced Luger was the 1900/2000 commemorative series of 350 pistols. Stainless like all the rest...but with black Cerokote. The Stoeger in the link is a "2-line" example from the 20s, after military style serial numbering of commercials began. I wouldn't call it a Navy because it has standard rear sight. Stoeger installed custom length barrels to order after the guns reached the U.S. Serial number listed oddly backwards, 5577n. This nice pistol will go for beau coup bucks. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-11-2020, 12:09 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	The only things I saw at the show were the guns, there were no boxes or accessories on display. I wish I could point you to a source for medals. Sadly, I have only two left, one I have modified to fasten to my gun show name tag and the other I occasionally wear on my jacket when I'm not wearing my name tag. I wish I had some more! I think Mark has sold or given away all of his also. After 20 years I doubt that the guy that made the medals still has the dies and I don't even know who he is, Mark handled that end. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-05-2020, 10:11 PM	#1
Mauser9x57 User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 15 Thanks: 27 Thanked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Black Stoeger Luger I saw a black Stoeger Navy model luger on the Rock Island Auction site. Are these stainless too with just some sort of coating to make them appear to be blued? Thank you in advance. Dave

05-07-2020, 11:23 PM	#3
Mauser9x57 User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 15 Thanks: 27 Thanked 11 Times in 2 Posts	I am no computer whiz so if this link doesn't work the pistol is at Rock Island Auction and is lot #1014. Here is the link (I hope). https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...stol-with-case Dave

05-15-2020, 01:27 PM	#8
Mauser9x57 User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Eastern Washington State Posts: 15 Thanks: 27 Thanked 11 Times in 2 Posts	I called it black and a Navy because Rock Island did in their ad. I have seen pictures of Stoeger Lugers made by DWM. Rock Island has one for sale in their next auction. Evidently no one else agreed it was worth big money. It sold for $1495. It did not have DWM marking and I think it must have been a new stainless reproduction