1914 dwm

HerrKaiser · 03-05-2024, 10:34 PM

I managed across this: a 1914 DWM P.08 1214a, all matching and original finish sans a mismatched DWM magazine (the other mag on here is an orphan Erfurt mag I had on hand). I would guess finish is ~90% blue. Strawing about 75% or so. Bore still has good rifling and is shiny, though not mirror. It doesn’t look like it was fired much either, not much finish loss whether the toggles would meet the rear of the frame. Mechanically the gun is excellent as well. I put a full magazine through the gun and it functioned flawlessly.

The gun has some extra history on it as it is also British proofed, all being rather tasteful for the British. They are so faintly struck in non billboard fashion that I at first mistook the “not English make” on the right frame rail as just some standard finish patina/scratches and the general British nitro proofs for Crown/RC stamps on many of the parts. It matches down to the unfluted firing pin and grips. The pistol came with a cut down US 1911 Holster. The seller said it came with the gun from the GI who brought it home from WW2.

To add to it, at SOS I found at a table what was advertised as a commercial Luger magazine pouch and brought it home as well.

Thank you and hope you enjoy!

HerrKaiser · 03-05-2024, 10:38 PM

More pictures

HerrKaiser · 03-06-2024, 12:03 AM

Even More pictures:

Balder · 03-07-2024, 02:59 PM

Does it have a hold-open? Any unit marking?

HerrKaiser · 03-07-2024, 07:24 PM

Yes to a hold open numbered to the gun, should have been standard in a 1914 military. No unit marks.

The British proofs are unusual in and of themselves. No TON marking or sign of a particular proof house. “Not English Make” and proof marks struck lightly and inconspicuously, many in spots I would have expected to see crown/RC marks. Any ideas?

jeb111 · 03-08-2024, 08:39 AM

That Luger was a nice find and it looks like it fits the converted holster well but judging by the finish it doesn’t look like the pistol spent much time in it. Anyway pretty cool
Jim

HerrKaiser · 03-08-2024, 09:46 AM

Thanks Jeb, it definitely does fit well. It’s a nice and honest old horse with some neat history to it. It should make another decent foundational piece in my collection as I move forward.

LU1900 · 03-10-2024, 11:18 AM

Nice Böhler barrel

HerrKaiser · 03-10-2024, 01:42 PM

I liked the Bö barrel as well. As I said above, the gun is mechanically excellent. Nice to know the steel quality is too.

03-05-2024, 10:34 PM	#1
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	1914 dwm I managed across this: a 1914 DWM P.08 1214a, all matching and original finish sans a mismatched DWM magazine (the other mag on here is an orphan Erfurt mag I had on hand). I would guess finish is ~90% blue. Strawing about 75% or so. Bore still has good rifling and is shiny, though not mirror. It doesn’t look like it was fired much either, not much finish loss whether the toggles would meet the rear of the frame. Mechanically the gun is excellent as well. I put a full magazine through the gun and it functioned flawlessly. The gun has some extra history on it as it is also British proofed, all being rather tasteful for the British. They are so faintly struck in non billboard fashion that I at first mistook the “not English make” on the right frame rail as just some standard finish patina/scratches and the general British nitro proofs for Crown/RC stamps on many of the parts. It matches down to the unfluted firing pin and grips. The pistol came with a cut down US 1911 Holster. The seller said it came with the gun from the GI who brought it home from WW2. To add to it, at SOS I found at a table what was advertised as a commercial Luger magazine pouch and brought it home as well. Thank you and hope you enjoy! Attached Thumbnails __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

03-05-2024, 10:38 PM	#2
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	More pictures Attached Thumbnails __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

03-06-2024, 12:03 AM	#3
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	Even More pictures: Attached Thumbnails __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

03-07-2024, 07:24 PM	#5
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	Yes to a hold open numbered to the gun, should have been standard in a 1914 military. No unit marks. The British proofs are unusual in and of themselves. No TON marking or sign of a particular proof house. “Not English Make” and proof marks struck lightly and inconspicuously, many in spots I would have expected to see crown/RC marks. Any ideas? __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

03-08-2024, 09:46 AM	#7
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	Thanks Jeb, it definitely does fit well. It’s a nice and honest old horse with some neat history to it. It should make another decent foundational piece in my collection as I move forward. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

03-07-2024, 02:59 PM	#4
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	Does it have a hold-open? Any unit marking?

03-08-2024, 08:39 AM	#6
jeb111 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2018 Location: wyoming Posts: 277 Thanks: 712 Thanked 331 Times in 133 Posts	That Luger was a nice find and it looks like it fits the converted holster well but judging by the finish it doesn’t look like the pistol spent much time in it. Anyway pretty cool Jim

03-10-2024, 11:18 AM	#8
LU1900 User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: FRANCE Posts: 908 Thanks: 42 Thanked 469 Times in 197 Posts	Nice Böhler barrel __________________ Best regards from France...Patrice https://www.fichier-pdf.fr/2016/03/1...nd-snail-drum/

03-10-2024, 01:42 PM	#9
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	I liked the Bö barrel as well. As I said above, the gun is mechanically excellent. Nice to know the steel quality is too. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22